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For All the Shortcomings of the USA
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Her Lao
2015-07-03 11:04:29 UTC
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http://www.loc.gov/rr/program/bib/ourdocs/14thamendment.html

The 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America REMINDS US ALL --- native born and naturalized citizens, AS WELL AS THOSE YEARNING TO COME TO THESE SHORES --- how and why America is, despite all its many flaws clichés included, the greatest country on earth.

Please, notice, that the NATIVE AMERICANS are truly the only original "Americans" because when they got here, 12-15,000 years ago, THERE WAS LITERALLY NO OTHER HUMANS HERE... so they are, in more ways than one, the true and original owners and caretakers of THIS LAND...

And the Native people likely did NOT invite Donald Trump's ancestors to come to these shores; but that narcissistic Orangutan-like man's ancestors ---- yes, very rich Orangutan, I have to admit --- made their way here, anyway, most likely ILLEGALLY.

But, over time, we all become "real Americans."

Again, as the majestic 14th Amendment says, either by SIMPLY BEING LUCKY ENOUGH TO BEING BORN HERE or being "NATURALIZED," if you're born elsewhere and made your way here and goes through a set of processes that enable you to learn the language, know the culture, and respect its laws.... we are all CITIZENS, with rights that, despite the abuses we all suffer now and then...

Very few other countries GIVE THESE KINDS OF PRIVILEGES to its citizens and those HOPING TO BECOMING CITIZENS by simply making their way to these shores.

For example, you and your ancestors could have been living in Japan or Germany for GENERATIONS and you're not a citizen of those societies, those countries. And for that you enjoy NO RIGHTS, not on paper and not in practice as in the law. If you live in societies like Germany and Japan, even if you're the 2nd, 3rd, 4th or 5th generation, if you're from OUTSIDE, you are STILL considered an outsider, an illegal alien. Yes, there are STEPS, even in Japan and Germany, that you could embark to become a citizen, IF YOU'RE BORN THERE and your parents and grandparents are born there.

But the point is, if you or your parents and grandparents were original from OUTSIDE OF GERMANY or Japan, YOU BEING BORN IN THOSE COUNTRIES don't automatically get you citizenship.

In America, again, DESPITE ALL THE UGLINESS WE HAVE TO FACE ON A DAILY BASIS, if you're born in America, you INSTANTLY GET AUTOMATIC CITIZENSHIP!---- even if your ancestors or parents CAME HERE ILLEGALLY, like that Orangutan-like man Donald Trump parents or ancestors, an ugly, narcissistic, lunatic man that around 12% of Conservative Republicans think the greatest and OUGHT TO BE PREZ of these united states.

Just so you know, 12% Conservative Republicans ARE NOT SMALL NUMBERS; they number in the TENS OF MILLIONS! And THAT is one of those "ugly" things in America I have noted, a few times now. But, again, despite that, we have one of the greatest PIECE OF NATIONAL LEGISLATIONS in the world, the 14th Amendment.

That's why, EAC YEAR --- each and every year --- TENS OF MILLIONS of people around the world FIGHT THEIR WAY TO THESE SHORES.

And out of those, a few hundred thousand to a million or two manage to get here, even if most get here illegally or in some complicated circumstances. But, again, NO MATTER, once they are here and they give birth to a boy or a girl, he or she IS AUTOMATICALLY CITIZEN of the United States of America!

Again, the NATIVES, the original people on these shores, did not invite us; but we are here, we've been coming here for over 500 years now, and it is through the FRESH AND NEW BLOOD AND SWEATS of immigrants over these decades and centuries and generations.... that have made these united states into the COUNTRY we are... diverse, complex, sometimes-ugly, but always united in the pursuit of larger goals and an ever MORE PERFECT UNION... with MORE RIGHTS to more individuals and groups, and with LESS discrimination and practices to less and less individuals and groups...

We attract MILLIONS of the other countries "best and brightest;" and we attract MILLIONS of the down and out and persecuted or simply those who want to, for all kinds of reasons, get the fuck away from their original country to come here to re-start their lives... even if they're poor as dirt and know not a single word of the language of this country...

We all, they all, come here and HELP BUILT THIS COUNTRY... each in our own small ways... from picking fruits and shoveling shit in barns, in our vast nation of endless pursuits.... to creating programs that run our computers and machines and devices...

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxiv

I laugh when I hear knuckleheads like Donald Trump & Conservative Whites and a few clueless Asians and a few clueless Hispanics/Latinos, and a few clueless Blacks say "all illegal immigrants need to be returned to where they came from."

I wonder of such idiots want to "return" to where they or their parents came from... because, again, outside of Native Americans, ALL OF US or our parents or ancestors CAME HERE uninvited; so if SOME PEOPLE want to deport "illegals," I wonder if such intolerant idiots want to self-deport first?
Her Lao
2015-07-03 11:22:46 UTC
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https://www.yahoo.com/politics/the-case-for-finally-building-a-memorial-to-james-122956496136.html

Again, despite all the contradictions, ugliness, and complexity of America --- as epitomized in this dead white male, among the elite and most privileged of his days --- this man, James Madison, truly is the FATHER OF THE US CONSTITUTION.

More of this small and short, 140 pound, 5'4" man's writings and ideas went into the FOUNDATION for the final writing of the US Constitution than any other person...

This man OWNED SLAVES, like his ancestors before him, so you know.

So it's not all milk and cheese and shiny city on a hill, like Conservatives who want to return to some ALTERNATIVE REALITY that was supposed to be better and more moral and meritocratic and fairer and more democratic than the present time, on specifics and in generality...

Again, America HAS ALWAYS BEEN and ALWAYS WILL BE a complex, diverse, and even ugly-sometimes nation... but we MUST improve on what went on previously; we CAN'T and WON'T and SHOULDN'T return to past ages...

http://www.biography.com/people/james-madison-9394965#revolutionary-times
CASALAO
2015-07-03 18:30:18 UTC
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this is not related to james madison and stuff but oh my goodness...

Her Lao
2015-07-04 18:46:34 UTC
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Post by CASALAO
this is not related to james madison and stuff but oh my goodness...
http://youtu.be/I5CMh8SMjOw
I think THIS is better than THAT, Casalao!

http://www.msnbc.com/weekends-with-alex

Pizza, the best food ever! I can't believe they actually figured out a way to keep tens of thousands of pizza slice hot, from the USA to the Mid East, via shipping giant DHL, which donates staff and resources to help out... this why the USA truly is the greatest! Pizzas!
Her Lao
2015-07-06 21:21:21 UTC
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http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/1834003/amos-yee-singaporean-teenager-who-berated-founding-father

In suppressive societies, leaders spend an awful lots of time and resources controlling people's MOUTHS, when the MIND is really the thing that matters the most.

Suppressive societies in general and Asians in particular think if you made it ILLEGAL for people to say things out loud, or write things and distributing them, about you or your leaders or leadership or ideas... that it is okay! That "everything is solved. Just get whoever that talks negatively about society and the great and correct leaders."

Only primitive individuals, ideologies, and groups think like that; and further who think that THAT is the way forward in human development and evolution: you just silence the ones who say bad things, write bad or false things about YOU and the GOOD LEADERS and you've solved much of society's problems.

Only children should think that way; no decent, educated, and grown up man or women should take that approach to life and live. Apparently, lots of suppressive regimes and people who operate on "correct leadership" and "correct thinking" BS do...
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