Discussion:
China's Slow But Methodical Strategy to Take Over Much of "South China Sea"
(too old to reply)
Her Lao
2015-04-17 08:22:03 UTC
Permalink
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-may-gain-control-south-030912732.html

When you are as big as China, and you start large SEEMINGLY NON-MILITARY ISLAND-BUILDING, small countries can't do anything.

If you simply stand idly on shore saying "All that, and into the horizon and beyond, for thousands of kilometers... they all belong to us" it is going to be immediately challenged by neighbors, who could stand on shores, ON THEIR SHORES, and making the same claims that have concentric and over-lapping circles over your claims...

But when you move slowly and methodically INTO THE DEEP SEAS, and deploy giant cranes, giant ships, giant drilling rigs and giant platforms... all the build super giant islands that airplanes could land, from previously ocean waters... then small countries that can not do that CAN'T really compete!

All they could do is just watch from afar, bitch to you or to the UN or other organizations and NOTHING CAN STOP YOU, CHINA, from slowly taking all of the most desire waters in what MAP-MAKERS CALLED SOUTH CHINA SEA.

Please, note: cartographers, or map makers, merely MAKE LABELS, such as the Indian Sea, Atlantic Ocean, Pacific Ocean, etc.,.... they did NOT mean those names and labels belong to countries or people whose waters happened to be named after!

But, anyway, as the Philippines, Vietnam, Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei, etc. watch, helplessly, China is in the process of building giant islands; and on those islands, there will be airports. Once the airports are built, then hundreds of square miles around those artificially built islands are, then, waters of China!

Purty smart, eh?

But, again, there's really no way for poor and small countries as those noted here to compete with or against China, since these projects take MULTI-BILLIONS OF DOLLARS and YEARS to build...requiring engineering firms, heavy equipments, and corporate as well as government assets that small countries just don't have or have in available quality and quantity to compete...
little FAT BigFOOT,BigHEAD2
2015-04-17 16:22:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by Her Lao
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-may-gain-control-south-030912732.html
When you are as big as China, and you start large SEEMINGLY NON-MILITARY ISLAND-BUILDING, small countries can't do anything.
If you simply stand idly on shore saying "All that, and into the horizon and beyond, for thousands of kilometers... they all belong to us" it is going to be immediately challenged by neighbors, who could stand on shores, ON THEIR SHORES, and making the same claims that have concentric and over-lapping circles over your claims...
But when you move slowly and methodically INTO THE DEEP SEAS, and deploy giant cranes, giant ships, giant drilling rigs and giant platforms... all the build super giant islands that airplanes could land, from previously ocean waters... then small countries that can not do that CAN'T really compete!
All they could do is just watch from afar, bitch to you or to the UN or other organizations and NOTHING CAN STOP YOU, CHINA, from slowly taking all of the most desire waters in what MAP-MAKERS CALLED SOUTH CHINA SEA.
Please, note: cartographers, or map makers, merely MAKE LABELS, such as the Indian Sea, Atlantic Ocean, Pacific Ocean, etc.,.... they did NOT mean those names and labels belong to countries or people whose waters happened to be named after!
But, anyway, as the Philippines, Vietnam, Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei, etc. watch, helplessly, China is in the process of building giant islands; and on those islands, there will be airports. Once the airports are built, then hundreds of square miles around those artificially built islands are, then, waters of China!
Purty smart, eh?
But, again, there's really no way for poor and small countries as those noted here to compete with or against China, since these projects take MULTI-BILLIONS OF DOLLARS and YEARS to build...requiring engineering firms, heavy equipments, and corporate as well as government assets that small countries just don't have or have in available quality and quantity to compete...
MON
DON'T WORRY CRAZY SAUB ALREADY SAID DECADES AGO THAT CHINA WILL PROVOKE A GREAT WAR INVOLVE 9++ NATIONS and that when THE creator's time to HELP OUR BLACK HAIR YELLOW SKIN LITTLE HMONG TO ESTABLISH A NATION. IT LOOKS LIKE CHINA WILL EVENTUALLY PROVOKE A WAR JUST LIKE THE CRAZY SAUB HAD SAID.
Her Lao
2015-04-26 08:18:22 UTC
Permalink
http://news.yahoo.com/philippines-urges-southeast-asia-rally-halt-china-reclamation-063242153.html
little FAT BigFOOT,BigHEAD2
2015-04-26 15:36:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by Her Lao
http://news.yahoo.com/philippines-urges-southeast-asia-rally-halt-china-reclamation-063242153.html
China already COURT one MAJOR PLAYER in the ASEAN ORGANIZATION such as THAILAND. THOSE NATIONS IN THAT sea WILL BE COMMIE TAINTED or SQUEEZED FLATLY AGAINST THE ROCKS WHEN CHINA RELEASE HIS BILLION POWER DOWN SOUTH TO THE PACIFIC. USA CAN'T DO A THING TO STOP IT. THOSE BLEEDING BLOODY NATIONS JUST HAD TO BEG THE CHINESE LORD FOR MERCY.
Her Lao
2015-04-27 04:15:12 UTC
Permalink
And building island airports, as you know, is not the only way to dominate the South China Sea hundreds of thousands of square kilometers....

China has been doing a multipronged approach, with one of the most obvious being loans, grants, and roads and rail ways to poor countries like Burma, Thailand, and Lao People's Democratic Republic (of Laos).

Another obvious one is the "foreign policy" approach in which China tells everyone, but especially bigger players from further away: Little countries need to and must deal with giant China on a one-on-one basis, "as equal partners."

No collective bargaining, China insist. Don't use ASEAN or any other such member-club approach. Since China has no need to use club-approach, you, too, shouldn't do it, China says.

Sure!

Like... Laos Burma, Laos, Vietnam, the Philippines, Thailand, Sultanate Brunei, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, etc. could negotiate as "equal partners" with/against China.... particularly if a few of the top officials, themselves or their families, as well as their powerful business friends who control major companies and corporations and banks ... from those little countries are being given lucrative deals, contracts, and access to China's political and economic elites!
little FAT BigFOOT,BigHEAD2
2015-04-27 12:56:13 UTC
Permalink
Post by Her Lao
And building island airports, as you know, is not the only way to dominate the South China Sea hundreds of thousands of square kilometers....
China has been doing a multipronged approach, with one of the most obvious being loans, grants, and roads and rail ways to poor countries like Burma, Thailand, and Lao People's Democratic Republic (of Laos).
Another obvious one is the "foreign policy" approach in which China tells everyone, but especially bigger players from further away: Little countries need to and must deal with giant China on a one-on-one basis, "as equal partners."
No collective bargaining, China insist. Don't use ASEAN or any other such member-club approach. Since China has no need to use club-approach, you, too, shouldn't do it, China says.
Sure!
Like... Laos Burma, Laos, Vietnam, the Philippines, Thailand, Sultanate Brunei, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, etc. could negotiate as "equal partners" with/against China.... particularly if a few of the top officials, themselves or their families, as well as their powerful business friends who control major companies and corporations and banks ... from those little countries are being given lucrative deals, contracts, and access to China's political and economic elites!
SOON CHINA will DOMINATE that WHOLE REGION. CHINA DESIRES A 1 ON 1 DEALING BIG BLOW TO THE SMALL ANT ONE BY ONE INSTEAD OF HAVING TO FIGHT THE WHOLE ANT NEST AT THE SAME TIME. CHINA WILL PROVOKE THESE NATIONS FOR A WAR CRAZY "SAUB" SAW IT DECADES AGO. IT WILL BE A BIG ONE HOWEVER IT MIGHT BENEFIT US ACCORDING TO "CRAZY SAUB". I WAS CRAZY BRIEFLY IN 2010 TOO AND I HEARD IT'S COMING SOONER THAN WE EXPECTED. IT SAID THE VIET and US will have a BIG ONE where the LAOTIAN GAVE UP FIGHTINGONLY A FEW OF US STILL FIGHTING WHEN THE WAR MOVE TO THE PLAINOF JARS. PEOPLE WILL DIE IN THOUSANDS "CRAZY SAUB" SAID. A NEW NATION WILL RISE FROM THAT WAR.
Her Lao
2015-04-28 12:50:28 UTC
Permalink
http://news.yahoo.com/china-extremely-concerned-asean-statement-disputed-sea-092225898.html
little FAT BigFOOT,BigHEAD2
2015-04-28 16:14:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Her Lao
http://news.yahoo.com/china-extremely-concerned-asean-statement-disputed-sea-092225898.html
CHINA is a BIG GIANT that she want to STEP ON any RAT that keep it's DROPINGs on her KITCHEN.
little FAT BigFOOT,BigHEAD2
2015-04-28 16:27:35 UTC
Permalink
Post by little FAT BigFOOT,BigHEAD2
Post by Her Lao
http://news.yahoo.com/china-extremely-concerned-asean-statement-disputed-sea-092225898.html
CHINA is a BIG GIANT that she want to STEP ON any RAT that keep it's DROPINGs on her KITCHEN.
ONE BY ONE THAT IS... NOT ALL OF THEM AT ONCE. CHINA just need to check the ground B4 STEPPING ON IT BECAUSE THE USA ALREADY LAYERED THAT AREA WITH UXOs in MILLIONS. A STEP ON ONE OF those CTHOSE UXO and CHINA will be CRIPPLE 4ever. just like THOSE unfortunate CHINESE GIRLS WHOSE PARENTS TIGHTLY WRAPPED HER FEET RIGHT AFTER BIRTH TO OPEN A CHANCE TO GIVE ANOTHER BIRTH IN HOPPING FOR A BOY. CHINA WILL BE SORRY ANOTHER T
little FAT BigFOOT,BigHEAD2
2015-05-07 14:41:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by Her Lao
And building island airports, as you know, is not the only way to dominate the South China Sea hundreds of thousands of square kilometers....
China has been doing a multipronged approach, with one of the most obvious being loans, grants, and roads and rail ways to poor countries like Burma, Thailand, and Lao People's Democratic Republic (of Laos).
Another obvious one is the "foreign policy" approach in which China tells everyone, but especially bigger players from further away: Little countries need to and must deal with giant China on a one-on-one basis, "as equal partners."
No collective bargaining, China insist. Don't use ASEAN or any other such member-club approach. Since China has no need to use club-approach, you, too, shouldn't do it, China says.
Sure!
Like... Laos Burma, Laos, Vietnam, the Philippines, Thailand, Sultanate Brunei, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, etc. could negotiate as "equal partners" with/against China.... particularly if a few of the top officials, themselves or their families, as well as their powerful business friends who control major companies and corporations and banks ... from those little countries are being given lucrative deals, contracts, and access to China's political and economic elites!
"Cambodia" had been BRIBED otherwise THATSTATENENT won't COME OUT. Cambodia GOT ZERO BORDER to that SEA so if Cambodia gave CHINA all 101% Cambodia would LOSE ZERO so at some $ AND BEAUTIES as tip Cambodia would AGREE with CHINA ON ALL SOUTH CHINA SEA ISSUES. CHINA WILL FLOOD DOWN TO THAT REGION SOON. IT DOES NOT MUTSATTER IF Cambodia AGREE OR NOT. A BIG FIGHT WILL ARRIVE IN THAT REGION AND CHINA WILL BE THE ONE TO BUST ALL THOSE LITTLE NUTS.
Her Lao
2015-05-07 13:28:45 UTC
Permalink
Cambodia says ASEAN should stay out of South China Sea fracas

http://news.yahoo.com/cambodia-says-asean-stay-south-china-sea-fracas-094010145.html

China claims 90 percent of the strategic waters and has long said ASEAN is not a party to the dispute and rows should be addressed bilaterally. Vietnam, Philippines, Brunei and Malaysia have competing claims.

The holding of the meeting was Cambodia's most overt move on the issue since a bitter row over the wording of a paragraph on maritime tensions in a draft communique at a summit in 2012.

Cambodia, which held the rotating ASEAN chairmanship at the time, was accused of driving a wedge through the 10-member bloc when its refusal to be drawn on China's actions in the South China Sea resulted in the customary end-of-summit communique not being issued for the first time since the grouping's inception in 1967.

China provides substantial economic and military support to Cambodia, its closest ally in Southeast Asia, but denies influencing its actions within ASEAN. Some commentators say China has the power to use Cambodia as a veto in the consensus-led grouping.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Naturally!

We know if "Cambodia" didn't say that, some one and some families, we don't really know whom so let's not name them... would not be receiving something or others which they have been given and which they are promised more of, if they say ASEAN nations shouldn't really make noises or "incorrect" arguments against China, which has claim virtually all of the "South China Sea"... and that EACH NATION must negotiate with China on a one-on-one basis, as "equal partner with China"! LOL

I tell you, the average mentality of Asia and Asian leaders, in particular, are still back in the Feudal Ages... or having never left Feudalism... because to them, that was the CORRECT WAY to think and to do things...

And you know why Hitler was supposedly so afraid of the Soviet Communists? They're ruled or at least dominated by "Jews and Asiatics"! Putin, for example, is not "truly 100% European;" he's sort of a half and half, eastern European, with heavy Asian blood lines and western European.... so he, like most Asian strong men, doesn't think his country is capable of any thing if he didn't stay in charge til death!
Her Lao
2015-05-21 02:35:08 UTC
Permalink
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/20/politics/south-china-sea-navy-flight/index.html

To: Trouble maker Americans

This is Chinese Navy; This is Chinese Navy; Please, go away, quickly
little FAT BigFOOT,BigHEAD2
2015-05-21 12:34:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by Her Lao
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/20/politics/south-china-sea-navy-flight/index.html
To: Trouble maker Americans
This is Chinese Navy; This is Chinese Navy; Please, go away, quickly
NEXT TIME just fly an F22 over there to do a little EXPERIMENT just to check that the F22 is ACTUALLY WORKS AS CLAIMED IN the STEALTH FUNCTIONS. I BET the CHINESE WILL SEND several DOZEN OF GROUND to AIR MISSILES and some HEAT SEEKING ONES TOO. that f22 GOT A big hot butt so a HEAT SEEKING MIGHT BE A GOOD MATCH but too BAD that BIG HOT BUTT move faster than the Chinese can afford to pull A KISS. THE CHINESE is a bit short and SLOW to touch that BIG BUTT and HOT MISS UNIVERSE F22 with her SPEED OF MACH 2.25 OR 2,410 km/h OOPS! WATCH OUT THAT F22 BIG HOT BUT IS 150 MILLION$ SO IT IS NO A PENNY TEST. to the GOVERNMENT though that 150 million$ is just a penny of the TRILLION$ BUDGET ALLOCATED to the military (NATIONAL DEFENSE is IMPORTANT RIGHT?).
Continue reading on narkive:
Loading...