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Education: Chinese Students Would Do ANY THING to Come to US Universities
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Her Lao
2015-08-10 04:55:41 UTC
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http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/12/asia/china-education-agencies/index.html


When you, the leaders of China, say to your countrymen: "The West has a different thinking system, and it is NOT RIGHT FOR US," this is the result: your young people, in the MILLIONS, will ditch your "correct" thinking system for "the West" incorrect one. If they and their parents could save enough money.

What kind of a society could you built, really, if millions of your students, from the garden variety to the best and brightest, don't really believe you and your bullshit about "ours is the correct way to think, and to do things"?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/12/asia/china-education-agencies/index.html


But the more important thing to pay attention to, not so ironically, is this:

While NO AMERICAN LEADERS presume to know which society has the "correct" way of thinking, in general, and they NEVER TELL YOUNG AMERICANS the Chinese way is the "wrong" or "incorrect" way to think and to do things, FEW IF ANY AMERICAN COLLEGE STUDENTS fight tooth and nail to go to just about any Chinese university.... other than the few hundreds or so who do so on an "exchange" program, so they could improve their Chinese language requirements and experience.




Take one of the best examples of WHY and HOW China's "correct" thinking CAN'T and WON'T accommodate truly gifted minds:

Zhang grew up in China, 1960s and 70s, poor. Taught in China but he always dreamed of coming to America. He eventually did, and he STRUGGLED HERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, even AFTER having earned a PHD in Mathematics. Couldn't find teaching position at a university, so he worked at Subway and other places, while TUTORE university of New Hampshire students who needed help with basic college math.

After a few years of lonely, isolated work --- even as he continued to tutor kids to pay the rent --- he found the answer to one of the questions on whether "twin primes" are bounded or not.

Overnight, the University of New Hampshire and many other top American universities OFFERED him full time professorship jobs.

Well, universities IN CHINA came calling, too: Please, some back to your town, to China, and we give you a full time mathematics professor position.

Why the hell would he return to China, a place of his youth that was so confined, a place and a society that were not diverse and open enough to accept his mathematical genius?, as well as his SOCIAL and POLITICAL thoughts (which was what got him in trouble, I presume, when he was in his 20s, 30s, etc., to caused him to decide to move to the West, to be with people who have the "incorrect" or "bad kind of thinking that China and Chinese must not emulate," I guess)....
Her Lao
2015-08-10 06:17:24 UTC
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This is why, despite all the doom and gloom politicians who like to get elected and have us carry them on our backs all the time, the USA shall always be one step ahead: we attract, ULTIMATELY, truly, the best and brightest... because our society is DYNAMIC enough in PARAMATERS --- think and do whatever the fuck you want and fuck all "authorities" who say THEY KNEW MORE AND KNOW BETTER and KNOW THE CORRECT WAY TO DO THINKING, etc...

That mindset leads to lot of problems, too, sure. But it also frees people from basic fear --- fear of nothing thinking a certain thought, about a certain "correct" idea, or ideology, because it "runs counter to the correct and wise leaders way of thinking, the only one allowed" --- and that freedom, ultimately, allows America to be ahead of the rest...

Year in, year out, generation after generation, we have millions of people finding their ways to our shores... most will only come to pick fruits and vegetables and do assembly work... but some are geniuses awaiting their time and their place... and MOST will, within a generation or two, produce good, educated, and hard working citizens to take the place of those who's gone on...

Ignore the fear mongering idiots who want to "take America back and return it to what it was like" in the 1950s, 30s, 1880s, 1820s, or 1700s...
Her Lao
2015-08-10 07:07:54 UTC
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/10/the-desperate-hunt-for-li-heping-chinas-missing-human-rights-warrior

Only societies still run by Feudal/Middle Age ideologies ---- China and Muslims, etc --- that treat humans and their people this way...
MadMostOfTheTime
2015-08-10 13:11:55 UTC
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Post by Her Lao
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/12/asia/china-education-agencies/index.html
When you, the leaders of China, say to your countrymen: "The West has a different thinking system, and it is NOT RIGHT FOR US," this is the result: your young people, in the MILLIONS, will ditch your "correct" thinking system for "the West" incorrect one. If they and their parents could save enough money.
What kind of a society could you built, really, if millions of your students, from the garden variety to the best and brightest, don't really believe you and your bullshit about "ours is the correct way to think, and to do things"?
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/12/asia/china-education-agencies/index.html
While NO AMERICAN LEADERS presume to know which society has the "correct" way of thinking, in general, and they NEVER TELL YOUNG AMERICANS the Chinese way is the "wrong" or "incorrect" way to think and to do things, FEW IF ANY AMERICAN COLLEGE STUDENTS fight tooth and nail to go to just about any Chinese university.... other than the few hundreds or so who do so on an "exchange" program, so they could improve their Chinese language requirements and experience.
http://youtu.be/MSWrT_sEIEg
Zhang grew up in China, 1960s and 70s, poor. Taught in China but he always dreamed of coming to America. He eventually did, and he STRUGGLED HERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, even AFTER having earned a PHD in Mathematics. Couldn't find teaching position at a university, so he worked at Subway and other places, while TUTORE university of New Hampshire students who needed help with basic college math.
After a few years of lonely, isolated work --- even as he continued to tutor kids to pay the rent --- he found the answer to one of the questions on whether "twin primes" are bounded or not.
Overnight, the University of New Hampshire and many other top American universities OFFERED him full time professorship jobs.
Well, universities IN CHINA came calling, too: Please, some back to your town, to China, and we give you a full time mathematics professor position.
Why the hell would he return to China, a place of his youth that was so confined, a place and a society that were not diverse and open enough to accept his mathematical genius?, as well as his SOCIAL and POLITICAL thoughts (which was what got him in trouble, I presume, when he was in his 20s, 30s, etc., to caused him to decide to move to the West, to be with people who have the "incorrect" or "bad kind of thinking that China and Chinese must not emulate," I guess)....
CHINESE STUDENTS DO NOT WANT TO FAIL IN THEIR LIVES JUST AS THE CHINESE STOCK MARKET WIPING OUT TRILLIONS WHEN COMMIE TRIED TO HOLD THE DECLINE. ONLY REAL FREE MARKET WILL ALLOW SUPPLY AND DEMAND TO CONTROL SUCH MARKET WHILE COMMIE TRIED TO USE COMMIE RULES TO CONTROL EVERYTHING FOR A TO Z EVEN DATING AND PERSON SEX ARE TO FOLLOW COMMIE RULE. THE MARKET DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY. THE COMMIE TOUCHED IT AND IT WILL FLY AWAY. THE RICH MILLIONAIRE AND BILLIONAIRE WILL DO WHATEVER TO SEND THEIR OFF SPRING OUT MONEY IS NOT AN ISSUE FO THEM.
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