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IT Companies Taking Off in Vietnam: CasaLao, You Should Head Back to Samneu
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Her Lao
2015-09-03 19:49:56 UTC
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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2490579,00.asp

After all, from where you came, it's just a stone throw away... you guys could set up your own little IT companies on the Lao side, and I am sure the over-flow will come your way...

Plus, it's really the BASIC EDUCATION in high tech, FOR THE NEXT GENERATION OF YOUNG PEOPLE --- in getting them into computation, coding, algorithms, fabrication & manufacturing, repair, services, logistics, etc --- that is really the most important thing, although the JOBS being created now are also crucial.

Sometimes I am actually quite amazed that, after only 40 years, there are so many of us from Laos, having come to the West, to grow up and to grow old here... we each have one or two basic knowledge that could help the young people and students of our old country... and yet, most of us will never return to Laos, for one reason or another.

I mean, I have a kid brother --- who speaks fluent Japanese ---- who's being living and teaching Japanese kids in Japan the last 9 years... I have no idea why the hell he needs to be teaching Japanese kids... it's like me teaching and tutoring some affluent private high school kids in one of the Whitest states in the country... after some 7 years, I just didn't see any need or reason or satisfaction in it... it's meaningless...

The rich parents pay you whatever you asked --- when you tutor their kids in algebra, geometry, biology, chemistry, history, etc. --- but do rich kids really need our help, really? What about the poor kids in poor schools whose parents can't pay? Don't their kids need help, too? I found the whole vicious cycle meaningless and depressing...

Ideally, it'd be so great, if it were possible, to be teaching and tutoring kids in the highlands between Oudomxy and Luangprabang, where I was born... like Lao teachers who came up to teach us... in and around the mountains over-looing Kasi and Vangvieng... in the early to mid 1970s...

It is tragic, if you think about it.
CASALAO
2015-09-03 20:13:51 UTC
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i am very envious and jealous of them viet. the viet like the japanese, chinese and korean are very hard driven due to the size of their country and the number of population. they keep moving and doing things or else they fall by the wayside and go hungry while us,, the lao folks, are more laid back and relaxed all the time.

damn it. IT hub in danang? from war place to IT hub. can't beat that.
Her Lao
2015-09-03 20:26:28 UTC
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Post by CASALAO
i am very envious and jealous of them viet. the viet like the japanese, chinese and korean are very hard driven due to the size of their country and the number of population. they keep moving and doing things or else they fall by the wayside and go hungry while us,, the lao folks, are more laid back and relaxed all the time.
damn it. IT hub in danang? from war place to IT hub. can't beat that.
Actually, you don't really have to be a huge population, like the Japanese or Vietnamese, to be sophisticated. Planning, at both community (on basics) and state levels... that's very crucial...

The Norwegians, Icelandic, Swiss, Dutch, New Zealanders, et al... they aren't bursting at the seam with population density... and they do very well... in fact, I think if you have SMALL to SMALLER populations, once you are able to establish a working blue print ---- not some silly one which doesn't work but you DECREE it to be work... but one that actually works, when you measure yourself against OTHERS, and you see RESULTS that can be graphed, showing you growing and educating at a RATE that outpaces others --- that really works...

There's a story being cycled by some Arab/Middle Eastern scholars and historians... about South Korea and Egypt, I think, once being at the same level.

Look at what happens, after just 40 years, of each society taking a different path... and Egypt is a good example, because it is CLEARLY not an illiterate society and people without history.

It was, in fact, THE MIGHTIEST civilization, before the rise of Athens... so there's some credibility in the argument that it's THE EXISTENCE, OR LACK, OF PLANNING AND LEADERSHIP AND BASIC SOCIETAL EDUCATION that drive such different societal trajectories...
Her Lao
2015-09-03 21:11:49 UTC
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/12-costco-secrets-you-didnt-know-y_55e70a56e4b0c818f619dc20?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

Remember, kids need more than reading, writing, and mathematics.

They also need good breakfasts that are cheap and nutritious. For any country to grow, to advance, you need to take care of other businesses as well.

Having people with BUSINESS SENSE, who know how to come up with FUNDAMENTAL FLOW-CHARTS of how commodities are produced and transported from A to B, in the easiest and most efficient manners, so that they are cheap enough, so that EVERYONE FROM THE COMMUNITY COULD AFFORD, so that their kids would have good breakfasts, lunches, and dinners, so that they could focus on learning to read, writing, do math, and come up with computer codes and algorithms.... it's all in the FLOW-CHART.....

It's truly, at a certain level, a MIND-SHIFT....

For example, what I see as totally or, at least MOSTLY, a WASTE in the Hmong community... most of them see it as something marvelous....

But the AVERAGE Hmong, both here in the WEST (compared to other groups) and in Laos, compared to other ethnics there)... could do so much more, WITH WHAT THEY ALREADY HAVE...

For example, in LAOS:

They raise tons of CATTLE, pigs, chickens, horses, etc. But rather than killing those animals FOR CONSUMPTION --- FOR BUSINESS ACTIVITIES which can grow and make them rich, which would enable their kids to go to expensive, good schools, etc. ---- but MOST of those animals go to waste, since they don't kill them for proteins and sales in ways that MAXIMIZE profit and business as well as nutritional in-take for their kids.

Instead, they raise animals for MOSTLY to be slaughtered --- to large numbers that often times DEPLETE a whole family's herd --- during the various "sacred" rituals and ceremonies... or, when it comes to bulls, to FIGHT in rings for gambling purposes...

In the mean time, I see endless parades of Hmong kids, over the generations, growing up poor, hungry, barely clothed, and hardly educated or educable... simply because the kids don't have enough PROTEINS & NUTRIENTS IN THEIR BODIES TO POWER THE BRAIN NEURONS needed to learn reading, writing, and mathematics effectively on a daily basis... a stretch that must take DECADES of sustained nurturing from both FOODS and BASIC INFORMATION/learning...
MadMostOfTheTime
2015-09-05 03:10:27 UTC
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Post by Her Lao
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2490579,00.asp
After all, from where you came, it's just a stone throw away... you guys could set up your own little IT companies on the Lao side, and I am sure the over-flow will come your way...
Plus, it's really the BASIC EDUCATION in high tech, FOR THE NEXT GENERATION OF YOUNG PEOPLE --- in getting them into computation, coding, algorithms, fabrication & manufacturing, repair, services, logistics, etc --- that is really the most important thing, although the JOBS being created now are also crucial.
Sometimes I am actually quite amazed that, after only 40 years, there are so many of us from Laos, having come to the West, to grow up and to grow old here... we each have one or two basic knowledge that could help the young people and students of our old country... and yet, most of us will never return to Laos, for one reason or another.
I mean, I have a kid brother --- who speaks fluent Japanese ---- who's being living and teaching Japanese kids in Japan the last 9 years... I have no idea why the hell he needs to be teaching Japanese kids... it's like me teaching and tutoring some affluent private high school kids in one of the Whitest states in the country... after some 7 years, I just didn't see any need or reason or satisfaction in it... it's meaningless...
The rich parents pay you whatever you asked --- when you tutor their kids in algebra, geometry, biology, chemistry, history, etc. --- but do rich kids really need our help, really? What about the poor kids in poor schools whose parents can't pay? Don't their kids need help, too? I found the whole vicious cycle meaningless and depressing...
Ideally, it'd be so great, if it were possible, to be teaching and tutoring kids in the highlands between Oudomxy and Luangprabang, where I was born... like Lao teachers who came up to teach us... in and around the mountains over-looing Kasi and Vangvieng... in the early to mid 1970s...
It is tragic, if you think about it.
IT WILL TAKE TIMES for INVESTERS and LPDR GOVERNMENT to TRUST EACH OTHER TO GET IT COMPANY TO GROW. THERE HAD BEEN MANY INVESTMENT THAT HAD GON SOUR FOR FOREIGNERS SO INVESTERS ARE STILL CHEELED ABD DO NOT WANT TO STEP INTO SOMETHING THAT HAD BEEN KNOWN TO FAIL. VIETNAM HAD ADAPTED FAR LONGER THAN LPDR SO WE WILL SE MUCH MORE PROGRESS ON THE EAST SIDE FIRST. IT SERVICES IS NOT CHEAP ENOUGH FOR LPDR TO BUY BECAUSE IT SERVICE HERE IN THE USA IT RUNS INTO 150$/HOUR IF I AM STILL DOING IT SERVICES AS I DID IN 1994-2006 I WOULD STICK TO USA HERE FOR PRICING AND EASE OF TRAVEL. I USED TO GO TO THE CLIENT LOCATION ON MONDAT AND TAKE FLIGHT BACK HOME ON FRIDAY. BASICALLY A FLIGHT TICKET A WEEK WHICH QWITHIN USA WAS NOT MORE THAN 500 THAT I CAN CHARGE BACK WITH FOODS AND HOTEL. I'M SURE LPDR WILL NOT WANT TO PAY SUCH A PRICE AT THIS TIME. IF I HAVE A FEW MILLION$ TO INVEST IN IT I WILL WAIT UNTIL I KNOW LPDR IS FIRM AND STABLE WITH LESSER INVESTMENT ISSUE WITH FOREIGNERS. IF ANYONE WANT MONEY GET THE PROPER SKILL TO BE IT SERVICE FOR US GOVERNMENT THEY WILL NOT FIGHT THAT IT FEES BECAUSE US GOV GOT BILLION$ TRILLION$ BUDGET TO COVER IT'S IT INFRASTRUCTURES. LARGE CORPORATIONS HERE CAN THROW MILLION$ INTO IT RESTRUCTURING TO MAKE IT MUCH MORE EFFICIENT IN UPGRADE AND PATCHING IT'S THOUSAND OF SYSTEMS. THE PROBLEM IS GETTING THE SKILLS TO DO THE NEEDED JOB. IT TOOK ME ALMOST A DECADE TO GET WHAT I CAN DO WITH PC SYSTEMS ESPECIALLY HOW TO DO THOSEUPGRADE AND PATCHING TO THOUSAND SYSTEMS IN A FEW HOURS INSTEAD OF NEEDING HUNDRED IT ENGINEERS TO RUN AROUND FOR WEEKS TO DO THE UPGRADE AND PATCHING. A CLASS ON THOSE SKILL USUALLY COST 2500$ AND TO GET ENOUGH CLASS WILL RUN INTO HUNDRED OF THOUSAND. I WAS LUCKY TO HAVE A HUGE CORPORATION TO TAKE THE TAB DURING MY SKILLS ACQUIRING PROCESS.
j***@yahoo.com
2015-09-08 18:53:51 UTC
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A Vietnamese business man once said...."I want my country to be a nation of DEVELOPER, not a nation of LABORERS".

A man like this is someone the Vietnamese people should put in position of POWER!


AS FAR AS LAOS is concern...Laotian are helpless.
Her Lao
2015-09-08 18:55:37 UTC
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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/american-dream-alive-well-taipei-n411106


Asian Americans are "returning" to try to find "the American Dream" in Taipei, Taiwan...
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