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Russia's Supersonic Tu-160 Bomber Is Back: Should America Worry?
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2015-05-04 07:07:47 UTC
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Russia's Supersonic Tu-160 Bomber Is Back: Should America Worry?

By Tom Nichols

Russian defense minister Sergei Shoigu announced recently that Russia is going to begin production of the Tu-160, a Soviet-era bomber known as the "Blackjack." The Tu-160 is a nuclear platform, basically something like the Soviet version of an American B-1 bomber: a big, heavy, swing-wing bomber meant to deliver nuclear weapons at long distances. The Soviets built about thirty-five of them in the 1980s, of which only fifteen remain in service.

So what does this mean to the strategic balance between the United States and the Russian Federation in 2015? In reality, it means absolutely nothing in military terms. As a political signal, however, Shoigu's announcement is just the latest in a series of provocations. No American response is required and none would matter.

The Blackjack, assuming the Russians even manage to build any more of them, is a perfectly capable nuclear bomber that, in time of war, would fold back its swan-like wings [4] and dart toward its targets at top speed. Once in range, it would launch cruise missiles that would make the last part of their journey low and slow under enemy radar. This is pretty much what all bombers would do in a nuclear war. (The one major advantage of the American B-2 is that it could penetrate farther into enemy airspace with less chance of detection.)


To worry about the extra capability of additional Blackjacks, however, requires believing that nuclear bombers matter at all in 2015. During the Cold War, when a "triad" of land, air and sea weapons were the guarantee against a massive surprise attack, both sides invested in various tripartite combinations of ICBMs, sea-launched weapons and bombers. In a massive first-strike, at least some of these weapons would survive and destroy the aggressor, which is why no one could contemplate doing it. (The Soviets likely did not contemplate it very seriously in any case. There's an interesting declassified CIA report from 1973 you can read here [6].)

Today, no one seriously worries that the Russians or the Americans will, or can, execute a disabling first strike against the other. A "BOOB," or "Bolt-Out-Of-the-Blue," is neither politically likely, nor militarily feasible. The days when command and control, satellites and even strategic delivery systems themselves were all far more shaky are long gone. The ideological competition between two global systems, in which one would seek to destroy the other as rapidly as possible, is also over.

Moreover, the sheer number of strategic weapons isn't up to the job. In 1981, the United States and the Soviet Union fielded a total of nearly 50,000 weapons against each other. Strategic targets, including opposing nuclear forces, numbered in the thousands. Today, in accordance with the New START treaty, Russia and America will only deploy 1550 warheads each. (Coincidentally, this week marks the fourth anniversary of New START [7].) Even if both sides were committed to a first strike, there aren't enough weapons to do it: 1550 means 1550, and it doesn't matter what platform--bomber, ICBM or submarine--is carrying them.


So why are the Russians even bothering to do this?

For starters, not everything is about us. The Russians have a huge nuclear infrastructure, and a military obsessed with symbols of nuclear power. Building more nuclear toys makes everyone happy: Russia's nuclear military-industrial complex gets jobs and money, the military gets its nuclear security blanket, and Russian leaders like Shoigu and President Vladimir Putin get to thump their chests about holding back the nuclear savagery of Barack Obama [9]. Outside of Russia, no one except nuclear wonks [10] like me even know what a Tu-160 is, but Russians know of it and many are likely proud of it.


The part that is about us is more disturbing. The Russians, and Putin in particular, have decided to forego any further pretense of accepting the outcome of the Cold War. Some foreign-policy realists [12] lay Putin's aggressiveness at NATO's door, and rightly point out that NATO expansion needlessly handed Russian nationalists a cause. But Putin, it should now be obvious, was never going to accept the Soviet loss. His feints at cooperation were unsustainable, and his Soviet-era nostalgia for the days of the USSR has reasserted itself [13] with a vengeance. If Putin can't get along with a U.S. president as passive and accommodating as Barack Obama, he can't get along with anyone [14].

That's why the United States has no play to make here, other than to remind the Russians of two things.

First, if we react to Shoigu, we should note only that the United States has a fully capable deterrent that cannot be destroyed, and that we have no interest in Russian bombers, so long as they do not exceed New START's warhead limits. We do not need to create a new nuclear system, or start returning nuclear weapons to Europe [15]. If Russia means war, they know it will end in 2015 the way it would have ended in 1965: with the destruction of most of Russia and North America, and the deaths of millions of innocent people.

More important, we must reaffirm our commitment to NATO, because Europe, not America, is really the intended audience [16] for Russia's nuclear antics. Bringing back the Tu-160 is another of the Kremlin's many attempts to scare the Europeans with the same threat the Russians have been harping on since the 1950s: "If war comes, the Americans will be so afraid of us they will not lift a finger to help you." Each time we ignore these threats, we encourage more of them.

The way to reassure NATO is match Russian moves not with nuclear threats, but with conventional forces, as U.S. ambassador Steven Pifer and others have argued [17]. This is what the Russians fear most, because they know that the Cold War equation is now flipped, with Russia the weaker conventional power. If Shoigu wants to build more of his pretty bombers, that's his business, but no Russian leader should think that an attack on NATO can produce anything but a Russian conventional loss, at which point the Russians will have to think about whether they want to face the escalatory burden that once haunted NATO.

Our reaction to Russia's nuclear threats should be no reaction at all, other than to affirm our ability to defend ourselves--and the most populous, wealthy and powerful alliance in human history [18]--as the mature and confident superpower that we are.

Tom Nichols [19] is Professor of National Security Affairs at the Naval War College and an adjunct at the Harvard Extension School. His most recent book is No Use: Nuclear Weapons and U.S. National Security [20] (University of Pennsylvania, 2014) The views expressed are solely his own. You can follow him on Twitter: @RadioFreeTom [21].

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Her Lao
2015-05-04 13:26:36 UTC
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That's why the United States has no play to make here, other than to remind the Russians of two things.
First, if we react to Shoigu, we should note only that the United States has a fully capable deterrent that cannot be destroyed, and that we have no interest in Russian bombers, so long as they do not exceed New START's warhead limits. We do not need to create a new nuclear system, or start returning nuclear weapons to Europe [15]. If Russia means war, they know it will end in 2015 the way it would have ended in 1965: with the destruction of most of Russia and North America, and the deaths of millions of innocent people.
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The ONE COURSE in college, at UC San Diego, in the mid 1980s to late 80s, that had the most impact on me as a human being in the late 20th century and early 21st century, was the NUCLEAR WEAPONS discourse course.

I still remember even the professor's name, James Skelly.

Anyway, what the professor above said was right.

The fact of the matter is, the BALLISTIC PROPULSION TECHNOLOGY that humans have at this point in our time has more or less reached its limits.

That is to say, other than a little VARYING DEGREES modification here & there --- by this or that nation, to the hardware and software that would take an ICBM from point A to point B, with little less drag, or with a few degrees of "stealthiness" under SOME exceptional circumstances, FOR THE MOST PART, virtually all of the top-end ICBM ("inter-continental ballistic missiles [& by that we generally mean NUCLEAR MISSILES]) --- by and large, the SPEED (of delivery, from point A to point B) and the YIELD (in terms of a multiplied Nagasaki or Horishima effect upon the unloading of their blast and radiation energy) that most of the big and affluent nations have put into their nuclear bombs and missiles mean ALMOST CERTAIN MUTUAL DESTRUCTION for any and all who shall resort to using nuclear weapons.

In other words, China may be said to possess only 300 to 500 ICBM equivalent missiles and bombs, but if you exploded 300-500 of these ICBMs --- each many times the power of the large one, FAT MAN, dropped in Nagasaki, Japan --- then virtually all of Western Europe and North America are wastelands....

So, we don't need to add 3,000 more of such explosions from America and 5,000 more from Russia.

But we know if China used, say, hundreds of their nuclear bombs --- and once you send them off, you can't stop at 2 or 20, since you KNOW your opponents whom you targeted WILL use DOZENS to HUNDREDS on you, in turn... so might as well use dozens to hundreds, pre-emptively --- then America and Europe WILL also use hundreds of theirs, too.

So, virtually EVERYONE dies. Hundreds of millions of people WILL SURVIVE during the initials days after hundreds of ICBMs are exploded. But the RADIATION fall out WILL SHUT DOWN THE VARIOUS ECO-SYSTEMS, with PHOTO-SYNTHESIS, the process by which PLANTS created food for animals, WILL BE SHUT DOWN WITHIN WEEKS... so within weeks to months, and it will last for years and decades, virtually ALL LARGE ORGANISMS --- plants and animals --- will start to die, if they didn't die from the initial impact of the explosions of HUNDREDS to thousands of ICBMs across the world...

Anyway, that is why building MORE and MORE EXPENSIVE nuclear bombers, nuclear subs, stealth jets like the F-22 that could carry tactical nuclear warheads, etc. WON'T DO JACK.... except to line the pockets of manufacturing companies owners pockets with more and more of our taxes.

The fact of that matter is, EVERYONE by now KNOWS no one --- not the USA, not China, not Russia, not Britain, not France, and, yes, NOT EVEN PITIFUL NORTH KOREA, which bitches about more rice everyone, "or we gonna do something you don't like!" --- would ever resort to using nuclear missiles or bombs against an opponent, when it comes to the countries who are CURRENTLY with nuclear stockpiles.

So, then, we don't have to do SHIT when Putin is siphoning off hundreds of billions of Russia's oil money --- most of its cash comes from oil, not from much of any thing else, although Russia has some of the most talented people on earth (think of a car, a telephony device, a computer, a household appliance, a brand of coveted food other than Vodka and Cavier, that we and much of the world can't do without, if Russia didn't make or export them? Not a whole lot, is it? --- to building more long range nuclear bombers.

We have HUNDREDS of large nuclear bombers and around 60 to 100 giant nuclear submarine, each carrying 50 to 100 ICBM prowling around all the corners of the world...

Now, on to ONE of the most important thing that the professor didn't talk about in his writing above here:

FOOD.

Russia CAN'T DO CONVENTIONAL WAR with NATO nations and win, since it can NOT sustain a long war, because it does not have the FACTORIES, LOGISTICS, AND FOOD AVAILABILITY that NATO nations have. Russia has the LARGEST cultivatable lands, for food, but having the land doesn't mean much, if you again don't have the manufacturing infrastructure, the people who produce and procure the foods, and the distribution logistics that NATO countries have.

War takes more food than missiles and bullets.

Neither China nor Russia could sustain multiple years, or decades, of warring activities with NATO nations, in conventional basis.

One last thing, on missiles and fighter jets:

Don't believe all the hype about "stealth" fighter jets.

The difference between the F-22 and Russia's T-50, as well as the difference between the T-50 and F-15 and French Rafale and Swedish Gripen and Europe Typhoons, etc. ARE REALLY NOT THAT BIG.

The BIGGEST and MOST IMPORTANT margins come in the fact that America has 200 F-22s, while Russia is struggling to produce only a few dozen flying T-50s, if at that; and America still has very able, daily operational F-15s, F-16s, and F-18s in the MANY THOUSANDS... spread ALL OVER THE WORLD, on many DOZENS of land bases, and 10 floating giant aircraft carriers.

All the world's all other advanced nations COMBINED don't even equal what America has, in terms of VERY MOBILE AND PORTABLE and not easily detected weaponry systems, with the ability to deliver them from many, many, many more different locations.

The FACT is, NONE of those planes --- none from America, China, Russia, Britain, France, Israel, Japan, etc. --- can evade cheap, portable missile systems that cost a TINY FRACTION of each of such planes... so the SPEED of planes and the way they glide this or that way.... don't really amount to much, in the long run.

In the long run, it is NOT tactical things, or one set of conventional weaponry or another..... but long-term STRATEGIC WHEREWITHALS (foods & procurement & delivery logistics, ships, man power, planes, cars, rail systems, oil, parts, etc.) needed to SUSTAIN those strategies.... that will win full blown (conventional) wars.

That's the only real advantage America has that NO OTHER NATION could compete with; and in a war that lasts years, with other big powers, SUCH MARGINS of advantage WILL MAKE THE DIFFERENCE.

America has the MAN POWER, the MANUFUCTURING & HEAVY INDUSTRIES, the food procurement and deliver logistics, the workers to keep working to produce the foods and weapons and parts necessary to sustain many years of grinding, attritional wars.

Again, neither China nor Russia has those capacities TO THE LEVEL AND DEGREE that America has. And when you tag on WESTERN EUROPE, too... as most belong to NATO.... Russia and China --- individually or together --- can't win any major, direct & CONVENTIONAL WAR against America and Western Europe...

Saying otherwise wont' make it true.
n***@yahoo.com
2015-05-05 01:47:20 UTC
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That's why the United States has no play to make here, other than to remind the Russians of two things.
First, if we react to Shoigu, we should note only that the United States has a fully capable deterrent that cannot be destroyed, and that we have no interest in Russian bombers, so long as they do not exceed New START's warhead limits. We do not need to create a new nuclear system, or start returning nuclear weapons to Europe [15]. If Russia means war, they know it will end in 2015 the way it would have ended in 1965: with the destruction of most of Russia and North America, and the deaths of millions of innocent people.
++++++++++++++++
The ONE COURSE in college, at UC San Diego, in the mid 1980s to late 80s, that had the most impact on me as a human being in the late 20th century and early 21st century, was the NUCLEAR WEAPONS discourse course.
I still remember even the professor's name, James Skelly.
Anyway, what the professor above said was right.
The fact of the matter is, the BALLISTIC PROPULSION TECHNOLOGY that humans have at this point in our time has more or less reached its limits.
That is to say, other than a little VARYING DEGREES modification here & there --- by this or that nation, to the hardware and software that would take an ICBM from point A to point B, with little less drag, or with a few degrees of "stealthiness" under SOME exceptional circumstances, FOR THE MOST PART, virtually all of the top-end ICBM ("inter-continental ballistic missiles [& by that we generally mean NUCLEAR MISSILES]) --- by and large, the SPEED (of delivery, from point A to point B) and the YIELD (in terms of a multiplied Nagasaki or Horishima effect upon the unloading of their blast and radiation energy) that most of the big and affluent nations have put into their nuclear bombs and missiles mean ALMOST CERTAIN MUTUAL DESTRUCTION for any and all who shall resort to using nuclear weapons.
In other words, China may be said to possess only 300 to 500 ICBM equivalent missiles and bombs, but if you exploded 300-500 of these ICBMs --- each many times the power of the large one, FAT MAN, dropped in Nagasaki, Japan --- then virtually all of Western Europe and North America are wastelands....
So, we don't need to add 3,000 more of such explosions from America and 5,000 more from Russia.
But we know if China used, say, hundreds of their nuclear bombs --- and once you send them off, you can't stop at 2 or 20, since you KNOW your opponents whom you targeted WILL use DOZENS to HUNDREDS on you, in turn... so might as well use dozens to hundreds, pre-emptively --- then America and Europe WILL also use hundreds of theirs, too.
So, virtually EVERYONE dies. Hundreds of millions of people WILL SURVIVE during the initials days after hundreds of ICBMs are exploded. But the RADIATION fall out WILL SHUT DOWN THE VARIOUS ECO-SYSTEMS, with PHOTO-SYNTHESIS, the process by which PLANTS created food for animals, WILL BE SHUT DOWN WITHIN WEEKS... so within weeks to months, and it will last for years and decades, virtually ALL LARGE ORGANISMS --- plants and animals --- will start to die, if they didn't die from the initial impact of the explosions of HUNDREDS to thousands of ICBMs across the world...
Anyway, that is why building MORE and MORE EXPENSIVE nuclear bombers, nuclear subs, stealth jets like the F-22 that could carry tactical nuclear warheads, etc. WON'T DO JACK.... except to line the pockets of manufacturing companies owners pockets with more and more of our taxes.
The fact of that matter is, EVERYONE by now KNOWS no one --- not the USA, not China, not Russia, not Britain, not France, and, yes, NOT EVEN PITIFUL NORTH KOREA, which bitches about more rice everyone, "or we gonna do something you don't like!" --- would ever resort to using nuclear missiles or bombs against an opponent, when it comes to the countries who are CURRENTLY with nuclear stockpiles.
So, then, we don't have to do SHIT when Putin is siphoning off hundreds of billions of Russia's oil money --- most of its cash comes from oil, not from much of any thing else, although Russia has some of the most talented people on earth (think of a car, a telephony device, a computer, a household appliance, a brand of coveted food other than Vodka and Cavier, that we and much of the world can't do without, if Russia didn't make or export them? Not a whole lot, is it? --- to building more long range nuclear bombers.
We have HUNDREDS of large nuclear bombers and around 60 to 100 giant nuclear submarine, each carrying 50 to 100 ICBM prowling around all the corners of the world...
FOOD.
Russia CAN'T DO CONVENTIONAL WAR with NATO nations and win, since it can NOT sustain a long war, because it does not have the FACTORIES, LOGISTICS, AND FOOD AVAILABILITY that NATO nations have. Russia has the LARGEST cultivatable lands, for food, but having the land doesn't mean much, if you again don't have the manufacturing infrastructure, the people who produce and procure the foods, and the distribution logistics that NATO countries have.
War takes more food than missiles and bullets.
Neither China nor Russia could sustain multiple years, or decades, of warring activities with NATO nations, in conventional basis.
Don't believe all the hype about "stealth" fighter jets.
The difference between the F-22 and Russia's T-50, as well as the difference between the T-50 and F-15 and French Rafale and Swedish Gripen and Europe Typhoons, etc. ARE REALLY NOT THAT BIG.
The BIGGEST and MOST IMPORTANT margins come in the fact that America has 200 F-22s, while Russia is struggling to produce only a few dozen flying T-50s, if at that; and America still has very able, daily operational F-15s, F-16s, and F-18s in the MANY THOUSANDS... spread ALL OVER THE WORLD, on many DOZENS of land bases, and 10 floating giant aircraft carriers.
All the world's all other advanced nations COMBINED don't even equal what America has, in terms of VERY MOBILE AND PORTABLE and not easily detected weaponry systems, with the ability to deliver them from many, many, many more different locations.
The FACT is, NONE of those planes --- none from America, China, Russia, Britain, France, Israel, Japan, etc. --- can evade cheap, portable missile systems that cost a TINY FRACTION of each of such planes... so the SPEED of planes and the way they glide this or that way.... don't really amount to much, in the long run.
In the long run, it is NOT tactical things, or one set of conventional weaponry or another..... but long-term STRATEGIC WHEREWITHALS (foods & procurement & delivery logistics, ships, man power, planes, cars, rail systems, oil, parts, etc.) needed to SUSTAIN those strategies.... that will win full blown (conventional) wars.
That's the only real advantage America has that NO OTHER NATION could compete with; and in a war that lasts years, with other big powers, SUCH MARGINS of advantage WILL MAKE THE DIFFERENCE.
America has the MAN POWER, the MANUFUCTURING & HEAVY INDUSTRIES, the food procurement and deliver logistics, the workers to keep working to produce the foods and weapons and parts necessary to sustain many years of grinding, attritional wars.
Again, neither China nor Russia has those capacities TO THE LEVEL AND DEGREE that America has. And when you tag on WESTERN EUROPE, too... as most belong to NATO.... Russia and China --- individually or together --- can't win any major, direct & CONVENTIONAL WAR against America and Western Europe...
Saying otherwise wont' make it true.
I concur, Her Lao!
little FAT BigFOOT,BigHEAD2
2015-05-05 17:19:14 UTC
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Russia's Supersonic Tu-160 Bomber Is Back: Should America Worry?
By Tom Nichols
Russian defense minister Sergei Shoigu announced recently that Russia is going to begin production of the Tu-160, a Soviet-era bomber known as the "Blackjack." The Tu-160 is a nuclear platform, basically something like the Soviet version of an American B-1 bomber: a big, heavy, swing-wing bomber meant to deliver nuclear weapons at long distances. The Soviets built about thirty-five of them in the 1980s, of which only fifteen remain in service.
So what does this mean to the strategic balance between the United States and the Russian Federation in 2015? In reality, it means absolutely nothing in military terms. As a political signal, however, Shoigu's announcement is just the latest in a series of provocations. No American response is required and none would matter.
The Blackjack, assuming the Russians even manage to build any more of them, is a perfectly capable nuclear bomber that, in time of war, would fold back its swan-like wings [4] and dart toward its targets at top speed. Once in range, it would launch cruise missiles that would make the last part of their journey low and slow under enemy radar. This is pretty much what all bombers would do in a nuclear war. (The one major advantage of the American B-2 is that it could penetrate farther into enemy airspace with less chance of detection.)
To worry about the extra capability of additional Blackjacks, however, requires believing that nuclear bombers matter at all in 2015. During the Cold War, when a "triad" of land, air and sea weapons were the guarantee against a massive surprise attack, both sides invested in various tripartite combinations of ICBMs, sea-launched weapons and bombers. In a massive first-strike, at least some of these weapons would survive and destroy the aggressor, which is why no one could contemplate doing it. (The Soviets likely did not contemplate it very seriously in any case. There's an interesting declassified CIA report from 1973 you can read here [6].)
Today, no one seriously worries that the Russians or the Americans will, or can, execute a disabling first strike against the other. A "BOOB," or "Bolt-Out-Of-the-Blue," is neither politically likely, nor militarily feasible. The days when command and control, satellites and even strategic delivery systems themselves were all far more shaky are long gone. The ideological competition between two global systems, in which one would seek to destroy the other as rapidly as possible, is also over.
Moreover, the sheer number of strategic weapons isn't up to the job. In 1981, the United States and the Soviet Union fielded a total of nearly 50,000 weapons against each other. Strategic targets, including opposing nuclear forces, numbered in the thousands. Today, in accordance with the New START treaty, Russia and America will only deploy 1550 warheads each. (Coincidentally, this week marks the fourth anniversary of New START [7].) Even if both sides were committed to a first strike, there aren't enough weapons to do it: 1550 means 1550, and it doesn't matter what platform--bomber, ICBM or submarine--is carrying them.
So why are the Russians even bothering to do this?
For starters, not everything is about us. The Russians have a huge nuclear infrastructure, and a military obsessed with symbols of nuclear power. Building more nuclear toys makes everyone happy: Russia's nuclear military-industrial complex gets jobs and money, the military gets its nuclear security blanket, and Russian leaders like Shoigu and President Vladimir Putin get to thump their chests about holding back the nuclear savagery of Barack Obama [9]. Outside of Russia, no one except nuclear wonks [10] like me even know what a Tu-160 is, but Russians know of it and many are likely proud of it.
The part that is about us is more disturbing. The Russians, and Putin in particular, have decided to forego any further pretense of accepting the outcome of the Cold War. Some foreign-policy realists [12] lay Putin's aggressiveness at NATO's door, and rightly point out that NATO expansion needlessly handed Russian nationalists a cause. But Putin, it should now be obvious, was never going to accept the Soviet loss. His feints at cooperation were unsustainable, and his Soviet-era nostalgia for the days of the USSR has reasserted itself [13] with a vengeance. If Putin can't get along with a U.S. president as passive and accommodating as Barack Obama, he can't get along with anyone [14].
That's why the United States has no play to make here, other than to remind the Russians of two things.
First, if we react to Shoigu, we should note only that the United States has a fully capable deterrent that cannot be destroyed, and that we have no interest in Russian bombers, so long as they do not exceed New START's warhead limits. We do not need to create a new nuclear system, or start returning nuclear weapons to Europe [15]. If Russia means war, they know it will end in 2015 the way it would have ended in 1965: with the destruction of most of Russia and North America, and the deaths of millions of innocent people.
More important, we must reaffirm our commitment to NATO, because Europe, not America, is really the intended audience [16] for Russia's nuclear antics. Bringing back the Tu-160 is another of the Kremlin's many attempts to scare the Europeans with the same threat the Russians have been harping on since the 1950s: "If war comes, the Americans will be so afraid of us they will not lift a finger to help you." Each time we ignore these threats, we encourage more of them.
The way to reassure NATO is match Russian moves not with nuclear threats, but with conventional forces, as U.S. ambassador Steven Pifer and others have argued [17]. This is what the Russians fear most, because they know that the Cold War equation is now flipped, with Russia the weaker conventional power. If Shoigu wants to build more of his pretty bombers, that's his business, but no Russian leader should think that an attack on NATO can produce anything but a Russian conventional loss, at which point the Russians will have to think about whether they want to face the escalatory burden that once haunted NATO.
Our reaction to Russia's nuclear threats should be no reaction at all, other than to affirm our ability to defend ourselves--and the most populous, wealthy and powerful alliance in human history [18]--as the mature and confident superpower that we are.
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TU-160 NUCLEAR BOMB& MISSILES. PERSONALLY I GOT ZERO WORRY because the USA isn't a land of 500 MILE^2 s oa BIG NUCLEAR BOMB CAN HIT ALL in 1 round. to hit the little 248 town in my area itmeans every square mile had to be HIT which would require hundred if not thousand of flights of that TU-160 I'M POSITIVE BELIEVE that the TU-160 CAN NOT make 5 flights B4 the USA counter the attack & RUSSIAN SURRENDERS. I'M 150 MILES from any MAJOR CITY SO I GOT ZERO WORRY. RUSSIAN CARE ABOUT DC,SEATTLE, LA, CHICAGO, NEWYORK CITY, and ECT, BUT NEVER MY TOWN OF 248 PEOPLE. THE THING WE GOT IS A GAS PUMP WITH CHIPS AND WATER FILTER MACHINES.. HAHA...
little FAT BigFOOT,BigHEAD2
2015-05-05 17:27:28 UTC
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Russia's Supersonic Tu-160 Bomber Is Back: Should America Worry?
By Tom Nichols
Russian defense minister Sergei Shoigu announced recently that Russia is going to begin production of the Tu-160, a Soviet-era bomber known as the "Blackjack." The Tu-160 is a nuclear platform, basically something like the Soviet version of an American B-1 bomber: a big, heavy, swing-wing bomber meant to deliver nuclear weapons at long distances. The Soviets built about thirty-five of them in the 1980s, of which only fifteen remain in service.
So what does this mean to the strategic balance between the United States and the Russian Federation in 2015? In reality, it means absolutely nothing in military terms. As a political signal, however, Shoigu's announcement is just the latest in a series of provocations. No American response is required and none would matter.
The Blackjack, assuming the Russians even manage to build any more of them, is a perfectly capable nuclear bomber that, in time of war, would fold back its swan-like wings [4] and dart toward its targets at top speed. Once in range, it would launch cruise missiles that would make the last part of their journey low and slow under enemy radar. This is pretty much what all bombers would do in a nuclear war. (The one major advantage of the American B-2 is that it could penetrate farther into enemy airspace with less chance of detection.)
To worry about the extra capability of additional Blackjacks, however, requires believing that nuclear bombers matter at all in 2015. During the Cold War, when a "triad" of land, air and sea weapons were the guarantee against a massive surprise attack, both sides invested in various tripartite combinations of ICBMs, sea-launched weapons and bombers. In a massive first-strike, at least some of these weapons would survive and destroy the aggressor, which is why no one could contemplate doing it. (The Soviets likely did not contemplate it very seriously in any case. There's an interesting declassified CIA report from 1973 you can read here [6].)
Today, no one seriously worries that the Russians or the Americans will, or can, execute a disabling first strike against the other. A "BOOB," or "Bolt-Out-Of-the-Blue," is neither politically likely, nor militarily feasible. The days when command and control, satellites and even strategic delivery systems themselves were all far more shaky are long gone. The ideological competition between two global systems, in which one would seek to destroy the other as rapidly as possible, is also over.
Moreover, the sheer number of strategic weapons isn't up to the job. In 1981, the United States and the Soviet Union fielded a total of nearly 50,000 weapons against each other. Strategic targets, including opposing nuclear forces, numbered in the thousands. Today, in accordance with the New START treaty, Russia and America will only deploy 1550 warheads each. (Coincidentally, this week marks the fourth anniversary of New START [7].) Even if both sides were committed to a first strike, there aren't enough weapons to do it: 1550 means 1550, and it doesn't matter what platform--bomber, ICBM or submarine--is carrying them.
So why are the Russians even bothering to do this?
For starters, not everything is about us. The Russians have a huge nuclear infrastructure, and a military obsessed with symbols of nuclear power. Building more nuclear toys makes everyone happy: Russia's nuclear military-industrial complex gets jobs and money, the military gets its nuclear security blanket, and Russian leaders like Shoigu and President Vladimir Putin get to thump their chests about holding back the nuclear savagery of Barack Obama [9]. Outside of Russia, no one except nuclear wonks [10] like me even know what a Tu-160 is, but Russians know of it and many are likely proud of it.
The part that is about us is more disturbing. The Russians, and Putin in particular, have decided to forego any further pretense of accepting the outcome of the Cold War. Some foreign-policy realists [12] lay Putin's aggressiveness at NATO's door, and rightly point out that NATO expansion needlessly handed Russian nationalists a cause. But Putin, it should now be obvious, was never going to accept the Soviet loss. His feints at cooperation were unsustainable, and his Soviet-era nostalgia for the days of the USSR has reasserted itself [13] with a vengeance. If Putin can't get along with a U.S. president as passive and accommodating as Barack Obama, he can't get along with anyone [14].
That's why the United States has no play to make here, other than to remind the Russians of two things.
First, if we react to Shoigu, we should note only that the United States has a fully capable deterrent that cannot be destroyed, and that we have no interest in Russian bombers, so long as they do not exceed New START's warhead limits. We do not need to create a new nuclear system, or start returning nuclear weapons to Europe [15]. If Russia means war, they know it will end in 2015 the way it would have ended in 1965: with the destruction of most of Russia and North America, and the deaths of millions of innocent people.
More important, we must reaffirm our commitment to NATO, because Europe, not America, is really the intended audience [16] for Russia's nuclear antics. Bringing back the Tu-160 is another of the Kremlin's many attempts to scare the Europeans with the same threat the Russians have been harping on since the 1950s: "If war comes, the Americans will be so afraid of us they will not lift a finger to help you." Each time we ignore these threats, we encourage more of them.
The way to reassure NATO is match Russian moves not with nuclear threats, but with conventional forces, as U.S. ambassador Steven Pifer and others have argued [17]. This is what the Russians fear most, because they know that the Cold War equation is now flipped, with Russia the weaker conventional power. If Shoigu wants to build more of his pretty bombers, that's his business, but no Russian leader should think that an attack on NATO can produce anything but a Russian conventional loss, at which point the Russians will have to think about whether they want to face the escalatory burden that once haunted NATO.
Our reaction to Russia's nuclear threats should be no reaction at all, other than to affirm our ability to defend ourselves--and the most populous, wealthy and powerful alliance in human history [18]--as the mature and confident superpower that we are.
The National Interest
Published on The National Interest (http://nationalinterest.org)
TU-160 NUCLEAR BOMB& MISSILES. PERSONALLY I GOT ZERO WORRY because the USA isn't a land of 500 MILE^2 s oa BIG NUCLEAR BOMB CAN HIT ALL in 1 round. to hit the little 248 town in my area itmeans every square mile had to be HIT which would require hundred if not thousand of flights of that TU-160 I'M POSITIVE BELIEVE that the TU-160 CAN NOT make 5 flights B4 the USA counter the attack & RUSSIAN SURRENDERS. I'M 150 MILES from any MAJOR CITY SO I GOT ZERO WORRY. RUSSIAN CARE ABOUT DC,SEATTLE, LA, CHICAGO, NEWYORK CITY, and ECT, BUT NEVER MY TOWN OF 248 PEOPLE. THE THING WE GOT IS A GAS PUMP WITH CHIPS AND WATER FILTER MACHINES.. HAHA...
RUSSIA WON'T WASTE A NUCLEAR BOMB TO KILL 248 PEOPLE. SHE WOULD RATHER HIT MILLION IN CHICAGO OR NEW YORK CITY OR ELSE THE MILLION SUPER RICH IN LA. WATCH OUT GIRLS. RUSSIANS ARE COMING WITH BIG STICKS. RUSSIAN WILL BOMB USA BUT SHE WILL SURRENDER WHEN CHINA BOMB RUSSIA THE CRAZY "SAUB" SAID SO.
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2015-05-05 17:29:14 UTC
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Russia's Supersonic Tu-160 Bomber Is Back: Should America Worry?
By Tom Nichols
Russian defense minister Sergei Shoigu announced recently that Russia is going to begin production of the Tu-160, a Soviet-era bomber known as the "Blackjack." The Tu-160 is a nuclear platform, basically something like the Soviet version of an American B-1 bomber: a big, heavy, swing-wing bomber meant to deliver nuclear weapons at long distances. The Soviets built about thirty-five of them in the 1980s, of which only fifteen remain in service.
So what does this mean to the strategic balance between the United States and the Russian Federation in 2015? In reality, it means absolutely nothing in military terms. As a political signal, however, Shoigu's announcement is just the latest in a series of provocations. No American response is required and none would matter.
The Blackjack, assuming the Russians even manage to build any more of them, is a perfectly capable nuclear bomber that, in time of war, would fold back its swan-like wings [4] and dart toward its targets at top speed. Once in range, it would launch cruise missiles that would make the last part of their journey low and slow under enemy radar. This is pretty much what all bombers would do in a nuclear war. (The one major advantage of the American B-2 is that it could penetrate farther into enemy airspace with less chance of detection.)
To worry about the extra capability of additional Blackjacks, however, requires believing that nuclear bombers matter at all in 2015. During the Cold War, when a "triad" of land, air and sea weapons were the guarantee against a massive surprise attack, both sides invested in various tripartite combinations of ICBMs, sea-launched weapons and bombers. In a massive first-strike, at least some of these weapons would survive and destroy the aggressor, which is why no one could contemplate doing it. (The Soviets likely did not contemplate it very seriously in any case. There's an interesting declassified CIA report from 1973 you can read here [6].)
Today, no one seriously worries that the Russians or the Americans will, or can, execute a disabling first strike against the other. A "BOOB," or "Bolt-Out-Of-the-Blue," is neither politically likely, nor militarily feasible. The days when command and control, satellites and even strategic delivery systems themselves were all far more shaky are long gone. The ideological competition between two global systems, in which one would seek to destroy the other as rapidly as possible, is also over.
Moreover, the sheer number of strategic weapons isn't up to the job. In 1981, the United States and the Soviet Union fielded a total of nearly 50,000 weapons against each other. Strategic targets, including opposing nuclear forces, numbered in the thousands. Today, in accordance with the New START treaty, Russia and America will only deploy 1550 warheads each. (Coincidentally, this week marks the fourth anniversary of New START [7].) Even if both sides were committed to a first strike, there aren't enough weapons to do it: 1550 means 1550, and it doesn't matter what platform--bomber, ICBM or submarine--is carrying them.
So why are the Russians even bothering to do this?
For starters, not everything is about us. The Russians have a huge nuclear infrastructure, and a military obsessed with symbols of nuclear power. Building more nuclear toys makes everyone happy: Russia's nuclear military-industrial complex gets jobs and money, the military gets its nuclear security blanket, and Russian leaders like Shoigu and President Vladimir Putin get to thump their chests about holding back the nuclear savagery of Barack Obama [9]. Outside of Russia, no one except nuclear wonks [10] like me even know what a Tu-160 is, but Russians know of it and many are likely proud of it.
The part that is about us is more disturbing. The Russians, and Putin in particular, have decided to forego any further pretense of accepting the outcome of the Cold War. Some foreign-policy realists [12] lay Putin's aggressiveness at NATO's door, and rightly point out that NATO expansion needlessly handed Russian nationalists a cause. But Putin, it should now be obvious, was never going to accept the Soviet loss. His feints at cooperation were unsustainable, and his Soviet-era nostalgia for the days of the USSR has reasserted itself [13] with a vengeance. If Putin can't get along with a U.S. president as passive and accommodating as Barack Obama, he can't get along with anyone [14].
That's why the United States has no play to make here, other than to remind the Russians of two things.
First, if we react to Shoigu, we should note only that the United States has a fully capable deterrent that cannot be destroyed, and that we have no interest in Russian bombers, so long as they do not exceed New START's warhead limits. We do not need to create a new nuclear system, or start returning nuclear weapons to Europe [15]. If Russia means war, they know it will end in 2015 the way it would have ended in 1965: with the destruction of most of Russia and North America, and the deaths of millions of innocent people.
More important, we must reaffirm our commitment to NATO, because Europe, not America, is really the intended audience [16] for Russia's nuclear antics. Bringing back the Tu-160 is another of the Kremlin's many attempts to scare the Europeans with the same threat the Russians have been harping on since the 1950s: "If war comes, the Americans will be so afraid of us they will not lift a finger to help you." Each time we ignore these threats, we encourage more of them.
The way to reassure NATO is match Russian moves not with nuclear threats, but with conventional forces, as U.S. ambassador Steven Pifer and others have argued [17]. This is what the Russians fear most, because they know that the Cold War equation is now flipped, with Russia the weaker conventional power. If Shoigu wants to build more of his pretty bombers, that's his business, but no Russian leader should think that an attack on NATO can produce anything but a Russian conventional loss, at which point the Russians will have to think about whether they want to face the escalatory burden that once haunted NATO.
Our reaction to Russia's nuclear threats should be no reaction at all, other than to affirm our ability to defend ourselves--and the most populous, wealthy and powerful alliance in human history [18]--as the mature and confident superpower that we are.
The National Interest
Published on The National Interest (http://nationalinterest.org)
TU-160 NUCLEAR BOMB& MISSILES. PERSONALLY I GOT ZERO WORRY because the USA isn't a land of 500 MILE^2 s oa BIG NUCLEAR BOMB CAN HIT ALL in 1 round. to hit the little 248 town in my area itmeans every square mile had to be HIT which would require hundred if not thousand of flights of that TU-160 I'M POSITIVE BELIEVE that the TU-160 CAN NOT make 5 flights B4 the USA counter the attack & RUSSIAN SURRENDERS. I'M 150 MILES from any MAJOR CITY SO I GOT ZERO WORRY. RUSSIAN CARE ABOUT DC,SEATTLE, LA, CHICAGO, NEWYORK CITY, and ECT, BUT NEVER MY TOWN OF 248 PEOPLE. THE THING WE GOT IS A GAS PUMP WITH CHIPS AND WATER FILTER MACHINES.. HAHA...
RUSSIA WON'T WASTE A NUCLEAR BOMB TO KILL 248 PEOPLE. SHE WOULD RATHER HIT MILLION IN CHICAGO OR NEW YORK CITY OR ELSE THE MILLION SUPER RICH IN LA. WATCH OUT GIRLS. RUSSIANS ARE COMING WITH BIG STICKS. RUSSIAN WILL BOMB USA BUT SHE WILL SURRENDER WHEN CHINA BOMB RUSSIA THE CRAZY "SAUB" SAID SO.
CRAZY "SAUB" SAID CHINA END UP HELPING USA BY BOMBING RUSSIA IN WW3
little FAT BigFOOT,BigHEAD2
2015-05-05 17:53:55 UTC
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Russia's Supersonic Tu-160 Bomber Is Back: Should America Worry?
By Tom Nichols
Russian defense minister Sergei Shoigu announced recently that Russia is going to begin production of the Tu-160, a Soviet-era bomber known as the "Blackjack." The Tu-160 is a nuclear platform, basically something like the Soviet version of an American B-1 bomber: a big, heavy, swing-wing bomber meant to deliver nuclear weapons at long distances. The Soviets built about thirty-five of them in the 1980s, of which only fifteen remain in service.
So what does this mean to the strategic balance between the United States and the Russian Federation in 2015? In reality, it means absolutely nothing in military terms. As a political signal, however, Shoigu's announcement is just the latest in a series of provocations. No American response is required and none would matter.
The Blackjack, assuming the Russians even manage to build any more of them, is a perfectly capable nuclear bomber that, in time of war, would fold back its swan-like wings [4] and dart toward its targets at top speed. Once in range, it would launch cruise missiles that would make the last part of their journey low and slow under enemy radar. This is pretty much what all bombers would do in a nuclear war. (The one major advantage of the American B-2 is that it could penetrate farther into enemy airspace with less chance of detection.)
To worry about the extra capability of additional Blackjacks, however, requires believing that nuclear bombers matter at all in 2015. During the Cold War, when a "triad" of land, air and sea weapons were the guarantee against a massive surprise attack, both sides invested in various tripartite combinations of ICBMs, sea-launched weapons and bombers. In a massive first-strike, at least some of these weapons would survive and destroy the aggressor, which is why no one could contemplate doing it. (The Soviets likely did not contemplate it very seriously in any case. There's an interesting declassified CIA report from 1973 you can read here [6].)
Today, no one seriously worries that the Russians or the Americans will, or can, execute a disabling first strike against the other. A "BOOB," or "Bolt-Out-Of-the-Blue," is neither politically likely, nor militarily feasible. The days when command and control, satellites and even strategic delivery systems themselves were all far more shaky are long gone. The ideological competition between two global systems, in which one would seek to destroy the other as rapidly as possible, is also over.
Moreover, the sheer number of strategic weapons isn't up to the job. In 1981, the United States and the Soviet Union fielded a total of nearly 50,000 weapons against each other. Strategic targets, including opposing nuclear forces, numbered in the thousands. Today, in accordance with the New START treaty, Russia and America will only deploy 1550 warheads each. (Coincidentally, this week marks the fourth anniversary of New START [7].) Even if both sides were committed to a first strike, there aren't enough weapons to do it: 1550 means 1550, and it doesn't matter what platform--bomber, ICBM or submarine--is carrying them.
So why are the Russians even bothering to do this?
For starters, not everything is about us. The Russians have a huge nuclear infrastructure, and a military obsessed with symbols of nuclear power. Building more nuclear toys makes everyone happy: Russia's nuclear military-industrial complex gets jobs and money, the military gets its nuclear security blanket, and Russian leaders like Shoigu and President Vladimir Putin get to thump their chests about holding back the nuclear savagery of Barack Obama [9]. Outside of Russia, no one except nuclear wonks [10] like me even know what a Tu-160 is, but Russians know of it and many are likely proud of it.
The part that is about us is more disturbing. The Russians, and Putin in particular, have decided to forego any further pretense of accepting the outcome of the Cold War. Some foreign-policy realists [12] lay Putin's aggressiveness at NATO's door, and rightly point out that NATO expansion needlessly handed Russian nationalists a cause. But Putin, it should now be obvious, was never going to accept the Soviet loss. His feints at cooperation were unsustainable, and his Soviet-era nostalgia for the days of the USSR has reasserted itself [13] with a vengeance. If Putin can't get along with a U.S. president as passive and accommodating as Barack Obama, he can't get along with anyone [14].
That's why the United States has no play to make here, other than to remind the Russians of two things.
First, if we react to Shoigu, we should note only that the United States has a fully capable deterrent that cannot be destroyed, and that we have no interest in Russian bombers, so long as they do not exceed New START's warhead limits. We do not need to create a new nuclear system, or start returning nuclear weapons to Europe [15]. If Russia means war, they know it will end in 2015 the way it would have ended in 1965: with the destruction of most of Russia and North America, and the deaths of millions of innocent people.
More important, we must reaffirm our commitment to NATO, because Europe, not America, is really the intended audience [16] for Russia's nuclear antics. Bringing back the Tu-160 is another of the Kremlin's many attempts to scare the Europeans with the same threat the Russians have been harping on since the 1950s: "If war comes, the Americans will be so afraid of us they will not lift a finger to help you." Each time we ignore these threats, we encourage more of them.
The way to reassure NATO is match Russian moves not with nuclear threats, but with conventional forces, as U.S. ambassador Steven Pifer and others have argued [17]. This is what the Russians fear most, because they know that the Cold War equation is now flipped, with Russia the weaker conventional power. If Shoigu wants to build more of his pretty bombers, that's his business, but no Russian leader should think that an attack on NATO can produce anything but a Russian conventional loss, at which point the Russians will have to think about whether they want to face the escalatory burden that once haunted NATO.
Our reaction to Russia's nuclear threats should be no reaction at all, other than to affirm our ability to defend ourselves--and the most populous, wealthy and powerful alliance in human history [18]--as the mature and confident superpower that we are.
The National Interest
Published on The National Interest (http://nationalinterest.org)
1991 RUSSIA WAS DEAD SO NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT. I'LL GO THERE TO BUY MYSELF A RUSSIAN BABE.
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2015-05-05 18:07:31 UTC
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Russia's Supersonic Tu-160 Bomber Is Back: Should America Worry?
By Tom Nichols
Russian defense minister Sergei Shoigu announced recently that Russia is going to begin production of the Tu-160, a Soviet-era bomber known as the "Blackjack." The Tu-160 is a nuclear platform, basically something like the Soviet version of an American B-1 bomber: a big, heavy, swing-wing bomber meant to deliver nuclear weapons at long distances. The Soviets built about thirty-five of them in the 1980s, of which only fifteen remain in service.
So what does this mean to the strategic balance between the United States and the Russian Federation in 2015? In reality, it means absolutely nothing in military terms. As a political signal, however, Shoigu's announcement is just the latest in a series of provocations. No American response is required and none would matter.
The Blackjack, assuming the Russians even manage to build any more of them, is a perfectly capable nuclear bomber that, in time of war, would fold back its swan-like wings [4] and dart toward its targets at top speed. Once in range, it would launch cruise missiles that would make the last part of their journey low and slow under enemy radar. This is pretty much what all bombers would do in a nuclear war. (The one major advantage of the American B-2 is that it could penetrate farther into enemy airspace with less chance of detection.)
To worry about the extra capability of additional Blackjacks, however, requires believing that nuclear bombers matter at all in 2015. During the Cold War, when a "triad" of land, air and sea weapons were the guarantee against a massive surprise attack, both sides invested in various tripartite combinations of ICBMs, sea-launched weapons and bombers. In a massive first-strike, at least some of these weapons would survive and destroy the aggressor, which is why no one could contemplate doing it. (The Soviets likely did not contemplate it very seriously in any case. There's an interesting declassified CIA report from 1973 you can read here [6].)
Today, no one seriously worries that the Russians or the Americans will, or can, execute a disabling first strike against the other. A "BOOB," or "Bolt-Out-Of-the-Blue," is neither politically likely, nor militarily feasible. The days when command and control, satellites and even strategic delivery systems themselves were all far more shaky are long gone. The ideological competition between two global systems, in which one would seek to destroy the other as rapidly as possible, is also over.
Moreover, the sheer number of strategic weapons isn't up to the job. In 1981, the United States and the Soviet Union fielded a total of nearly 50,000 weapons against each other. Strategic targets, including opposing nuclear forces, numbered in the thousands. Today, in accordance with the New START treaty, Russia and America will only deploy 1550 warheads each. (Coincidentally, this week marks the fourth anniversary of New START [7].) Even if both sides were committed to a first strike, there aren't enough weapons to do it: 1550 means 1550, and it doesn't matter what platform--bomber, ICBM or submarine--is carrying them.
So why are the Russians even bothering to do this?
For starters, not everything is about us. The Russians have a huge nuclear infrastructure, and a military obsessed with symbols of nuclear power. Building more nuclear toys makes everyone happy: Russia's nuclear military-industrial complex gets jobs and money, the military gets its nuclear security blanket, and Russian leaders like Shoigu and President Vladimir Putin get to thump their chests about holding back the nuclear savagery of Barack Obama [9]. Outside of Russia, no one except nuclear wonks [10] like me even know what a Tu-160 is, but Russians know of it and many are likely proud of it.
The part that is about us is more disturbing. The Russians, and Putin in particular, have decided to forego any further pretense of accepting the outcome of the Cold War. Some foreign-policy realists [12] lay Putin's aggressiveness at NATO's door, and rightly point out that NATO expansion needlessly handed Russian nationalists a cause. But Putin, it should now be obvious, was never going to accept the Soviet loss. His feints at cooperation were unsustainable, and his Soviet-era nostalgia for the days of the USSR has reasserted itself [13] with a vengeance. If Putin can't get along with a U.S. president as passive and accommodating as Barack Obama, he can't get along with anyone [14].
That's why the United States has no play to make here, other than to remind the Russians of two things.
First, if we react to Shoigu, we should note only that the United States has a fully capable deterrent that cannot be destroyed, and that we have no interest in Russian bombers, so long as they do not exceed New START's warhead limits. We do not need to create a new nuclear system, or start returning nuclear weapons to Europe [15]. If Russia means war, they know it will end in 2015 the way it would have ended in 1965: with the destruction of most of Russia and North America, and the deaths of millions of innocent people.
More important, we must reaffirm our commitment to NATO, because Europe, not America, is really the intended audience [16] for Russia's nuclear antics. Bringing back the Tu-160 is another of the Kremlin's many attempts to scare the Europeans with the same threat the Russians have been harping on since the 1950s: "If war comes, the Americans will be so afraid of us they will not lift a finger to help you." Each time we ignore these threats, we encourage more of them.
The way to reassure NATO is match Russian moves not with nuclear threats, but with conventional forces, as U.S. ambassador Steven Pifer and others have argued [17]. This is what the Russians fear most, because they know that the Cold War equation is now flipped, with Russia the weaker conventional power. If Shoigu wants to build more of his pretty bombers, that's his business, but no Russian leader should think that an attack on NATO can produce anything but a Russian conventional loss, at which point the Russians will have to think about whether they want to face the escalatory burden that once haunted NATO.
Our reaction to Russia's nuclear threats should be no reaction at all, other than to affirm our ability to defend ourselves--and the most populous, wealthy and powerful alliance in human history [18]--as the mature and confident superpower that we are.
The National Interest
Published on The National Interest (http://nationalinterest.org)
1991 RUSSIA WAS DEAD SO NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT. I'LL GO THERE TO BUY MYSELF A RUSSIAN BABE.
I'M GOING 4 THIS CHIC:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-_0drg7WMjleHZuMkcwRzFjM0k/view?usp=sharing
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2015-05-05 18:20:08 UTC
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Russia's Supersonic Tu-160 Bomber Is Back: Should America Worry?
By Tom Nichols
Russian defense minister Sergei Shoigu announced recently that Russia is going to begin production of the Tu-160, a Soviet-era bomber known as the "Blackjack." The Tu-160 is a nuclear platform, basically something like the Soviet version of an American B-1 bomber: a big, heavy, swing-wing bomber meant to deliver nuclear weapons at long distances. The Soviets built about thirty-five of them in the 1980s, of which only fifteen remain in service.
So what does this mean to the strategic balance between the United States and the Russian Federation in 2015? In reality, it means absolutely nothing in military terms. As a political signal, however, Shoigu's announcement is just the latest in a series of provocations. No American response is required and none would matter.
The Blackjack, assuming the Russians even manage to build any more of them, is a perfectly capable nuclear bomber that, in time of war, would fold back its swan-like wings [4] and dart toward its targets at top speed. Once in range, it would launch cruise missiles that would make the last part of their journey low and slow under enemy radar. This is pretty much what all bombers would do in a nuclear war. (The one major advantage of the American B-2 is that it could penetrate farther into enemy airspace with less chance of detection.)
To worry about the extra capability of additional Blackjacks, however, requires believing that nuclear bombers matter at all in 2015. During the Cold War, when a "triad" of land, air and sea weapons were the guarantee against a massive surprise attack, both sides invested in various tripartite combinations of ICBMs, sea-launched weapons and bombers. In a massive first-strike, at least some of these weapons would survive and destroy the aggressor, which is why no one could contemplate doing it. (The Soviets likely did not contemplate it very seriously in any case. There's an interesting declassified CIA report from 1973 you can read here [6].)
Today, no one seriously worries that the Russians or the Americans will, or can, execute a disabling first strike against the other. A "BOOB," or "Bolt-Out-Of-the-Blue," is neither politically likely, nor militarily feasible. The days when command and control, satellites and even strategic delivery systems themselves were all far more shaky are long gone. The ideological competition between two global systems, in which one would seek to destroy the other as rapidly as possible, is also over.
Moreover, the sheer number of strategic weapons isn't up to the job. In 1981, the United States and the Soviet Union fielded a total of nearly 50,000 weapons against each other. Strategic targets, including opposing nuclear forces, numbered in the thousands. Today, in accordance with the New START treaty, Russia and America will only deploy 1550 warheads each. (Coincidentally, this week marks the fourth anniversary of New START [7].) Even if both sides were committed to a first strike, there aren't enough weapons to do it: 1550 means 1550, and it doesn't matter what platform--bomber, ICBM or submarine--is carrying them.
So why are the Russians even bothering to do this?
For starters, not everything is about us. The Russians have a huge nuclear infrastructure, and a military obsessed with symbols of nuclear power. Building more nuclear toys makes everyone happy: Russia's nuclear military-industrial complex gets jobs and money, the military gets its nuclear security blanket, and Russian leaders like Shoigu and President Vladimir Putin get to thump their chests about holding back the nuclear savagery of Barack Obama [9]. Outside of Russia, no one except nuclear wonks [10] like me even know what a Tu-160 is, but Russians know of it and many are likely proud of it.
The part that is about us is more disturbing. The Russians, and Putin in particular, have decided to forego any further pretense of accepting the outcome of the Cold War. Some foreign-policy realists [12] lay Putin's aggressiveness at NATO's door, and rightly point out that NATO expansion needlessly handed Russian nationalists a cause. But Putin, it should now be obvious, was never going to accept the Soviet loss. His feints at cooperation were unsustainable, and his Soviet-era nostalgia for the days of the USSR has reasserted itself [13] with a vengeance. If Putin can't get along with a U.S. president as passive and accommodating as Barack Obama, he can't get along with anyone [14].
That's why the United States has no play to make here, other than to remind the Russians of two things.
First, if we react to Shoigu, we should note only that the United States has a fully capable deterrent that cannot be destroyed, and that we have no interest in Russian bombers, so long as they do not exceed New START's warhead limits. We do not need to create a new nuclear system, or start returning nuclear weapons to Europe [15]. If Russia means war, they know it will end in 2015 the way it would have ended in 1965: with the destruction of most of Russia and North America, and the deaths of millions of innocent people.
More important, we must reaffirm our commitment to NATO, because Europe, not America, is really the intended audience [16] for Russia's nuclear antics. Bringing back the Tu-160 is another of the Kremlin's many attempts to scare the Europeans with the same threat the Russians have been harping on since the 1950s: "If war comes, the Americans will be so afraid of us they will not lift a finger to help you." Each time we ignore these threats, we encourage more of them.
The way to reassure NATO is match Russian moves not with nuclear threats, but with conventional forces, as U.S. ambassador Steven Pifer and others have argued [17]. This is what the Russians fear most, because they know that the Cold War equation is now flipped, with Russia the weaker conventional power. If Shoigu wants to build more of his pretty bombers, that's his business, but no Russian leader should think that an attack on NATO can produce anything but a Russian conventional loss, at which point the Russians will have to think about whether they want to face the escalatory burden that once haunted NATO.
Our reaction to Russia's nuclear threats should be no reaction at all, other than to affirm our ability to defend ourselves--and the most populous, wealthy and powerful alliance in human history [18]--as the mature and confident superpower that we are.
The National Interest
Published on The National Interest (http://nationalinterest.org)
1991 RUSSIA WAS DEAD SO NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT. I'LL GO THERE TO BUY MYSELF A RUSSIAN BABE.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-_0drg7WMjleHZuMkcwRzFjM0k/view?usp=sharing
beware of this commie agent she got 3 bombs:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-_0drg7WMjlbVFQc3JPWW8zeGc/view?usp=sharing
I'LL PAS THIS ONE BECAUSE I KNOW SHE'S MY #1 ENEMY
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2015-05-05 20:26:19 UTC
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Russia's Supersonic Tu-160 Bomber Is Back: Should America Worry?
By Tom Nichols
Russian defense minister Sergei Shoigu announced recently that Russia is going to begin production of the Tu-160, a Soviet-era bomber known as the "Blackjack." The Tu-160 is a nuclear platform, basically something like the Soviet version of an American B-1 bomber: a big, heavy, swing-wing bomber meant to deliver nuclear weapons at long distances. The Soviets built about thirty-five of them in the 1980s, of which only fifteen remain in service.
So what does this mean to the strategic balance between the United States and the Russian Federation in 2015? In reality, it means absolutely nothing in military terms. As a political signal, however, Shoigu's announcement is just the latest in a series of provocations. No American response is required and none would matter.
The Blackjack, assuming the Russians even manage to build any more of them, is a perfectly capable nuclear bomber that, in time of war, would fold back its swan-like wings [4] and dart toward its targets at top speed. Once in range, it would launch cruise missiles that would make the last part of their journey low and slow under enemy radar. This is pretty much what all bombers would do in a nuclear war. (The one major advantage of the American B-2 is that it could penetrate farther into enemy airspace with less chance of detection.)
To worry about the extra capability of additional Blackjacks, however, requires believing that nuclear bombers matter at all in 2015. During the Cold War, when a "triad" of land, air and sea weapons were the guarantee against a massive surprise attack, both sides invested in various tripartite combinations of ICBMs, sea-launched weapons and bombers. In a massive first-strike, at least some of these weapons would survive and destroy the aggressor, which is why no one could contemplate doing it. (The Soviets likely did not contemplate it very seriously in any case. There's an interesting declassified CIA report from 1973 you can read here [6].)
Today, no one seriously worries that the Russians or the Americans will, or can, execute a disabling first strike against the other. A "BOOB," or "Bolt-Out-Of-the-Blue," is neither politically likely, nor militarily feasible. The days when command and control, satellites and even strategic delivery systems themselves were all far more shaky are long gone. The ideological competition between two global systems, in which one would seek to destroy the other as rapidly as possible, is also over.
Moreover, the sheer number of strategic weapons isn't up to the job. In 1981, the United States and the Soviet Union fielded a total of nearly 50,000 weapons against each other. Strategic targets, including opposing nuclear forces, numbered in the thousands. Today, in accordance with the New START treaty, Russia and America will only deploy 1550 warheads each. (Coincidentally, this week marks the fourth anniversary of New START [7].) Even if both sides were committed to a first strike, there aren't enough weapons to do it: 1550 means 1550, and it doesn't matter what platform--bomber, ICBM or submarine--is carrying them.
So why are the Russians even bothering to do this?
For starters, not everything is about us. The Russians have a huge nuclear infrastructure, and a military obsessed with symbols of nuclear power. Building more nuclear toys makes everyone happy: Russia's nuclear military-industrial complex gets jobs and money, the military gets its nuclear security blanket, and Russian leaders like Shoigu and President Vladimir Putin get to thump their chests about holding back the nuclear savagery of Barack Obama [9]. Outside of Russia, no one except nuclear wonks [10] like me even know what a Tu-160 is, but Russians know of it and many are likely proud of it.
The part that is about us is more disturbing. The Russians, and Putin in particular, have decided to forego any further pretense of accepting the outcome of the Cold War. Some foreign-policy realists [12] lay Putin's aggressiveness at NATO's door, and rightly point out that NATO expansion needlessly handed Russian nationalists a cause. But Putin, it should now be obvious, was never going to accept the Soviet loss. His feints at cooperation were unsustainable, and his Soviet-era nostalgia for the days of the USSR has reasserted itself [13] with a vengeance. If Putin can't get along with a U.S. president as passive and accommodating as Barack Obama, he can't get along with anyone [14].
That's why the United States has no play to make here, other than to remind the Russians of two things.
First, if we react to Shoigu, we should note only that the United States has a fully capable deterrent that cannot be destroyed, and that we have no interest in Russian bombers, so long as they do not exceed New START's warhead limits. We do not need to create a new nuclear system, or start returning nuclear weapons to Europe [15]. If Russia means war, they know it will end in 2015 the way it would have ended in 1965: with the destruction of most of Russia and North America, and the deaths of millions of innocent people.
More important, we must reaffirm our commitment to NATO, because Europe, not America, is really the intended audience [16] for Russia's nuclear antics. Bringing back the Tu-160 is another of the Kremlin's many attempts to scare the Europeans with the same threat the Russians have been harping on since the 1950s: "If war comes, the Americans will be so afraid of us they will not lift a finger to help you." Each time we ignore these threats, we encourage more of them.
The way to reassure NATO is match Russian moves not with nuclear threats, but with conventional forces, as U.S. ambassador Steven Pifer and others have argued [17]. This is what the Russians fear most, because they know that the Cold War equation is now flipped, with Russia the weaker conventional power. If Shoigu wants to build more of his pretty bombers, that's his business, but no Russian leader should think that an attack on NATO can produce anything but a Russian conventional loss, at which point the Russians will have to think about whether they want to face the escalatory burden that once haunted NATO.
Our reaction to Russia's nuclear threats should be no reaction at all, other than to affirm our ability to defend ourselves--and the most populous, wealthy and powerful alliance in human history [18]--as the mature and confident superpower that we are.
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THOSE 3 HUGE BOMBS THAT SHE GOT WILL DO OULD MOREB C DAMAGES THAN THE NUCLEAR BOMB USED ON HIROSHIMA. THAT ONW WAS BELOW 20 MEGATON. THIS LADY'S 3 BOMBS COULD BE GUESTIMAT AT 250 MEGATON EACH. WAIGHT THAT'S NOT ALL HER BODY IS PACKED A 500 MEGATON INSIDE. TOTAL TO 3X250+500== 1,250 MEGATON. AT 1.25 GIGATON THIS PLANET WILL BE WIPE OUT JUST LIKE THE METEOR THAT WIPE THE DINOSAUR. WE NEED NASA TO COMMIE CHIC TO THE MOON AND WATCH A BRILLIANT LIGHT SHOW.
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