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US & Saudi Arabia, for some inexplicable reason, Decided to Try to Topple Putin
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Her Lao
2014-10-16 09:33:20 UTC
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/iran-blog/2014/oct/15/iran-urged-emergency-opec-meeting-due-to-falling-oil-prices

Through manipulating oil prices.

This crude oil price drop, of course, is good for the general consumers, for a couple months at least... so I doubt many people would come to Mr. Putin's --- oil man of Russia's --- defense...

A couple months ago, when Putin first marched into Crimea, and, then, into eastern Ukraine, some Russian expert commentator, from Russia, said Putin's ability to stay as the dictator would last only if oil price didn't come down to the 75-85 a barrel range; and that if it did, for a year or more, that there would be regime change in Russia, as both business men and women and citizens alike would not have a collapsing Russian economy, with Putin putting hundreds of billions of dollars, a year, into inedible military activities.

Unlike the USA and Western European nations, Russia gets a very substantial part of its operating budget directly from oil sales; so if crude oil prices drop to the $80-range, or lower, and stay there for a year or more, Mr. Putin would indeed be in trouble...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/31/ukraine-crisis-russia-economy-idUSL6N0PY3D920140731
Her Lao
2014-10-17 13:25:16 UTC
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Post by Her Lao
http://www.theguardian.com/world/iran-blog/2014/oct/15/iran-urged-emergency-opec-meeting-due-to-falling-oil-prices
Through manipulating oil prices.
This crude oil price drop, of course, is good for the general consumers, for a couple months at least... so I doubt many people would come to Mr. Putin's --- oil man of Russia's --- defense...
A couple months ago, when Putin first marched into Crimea, and, then, into eastern Ukraine, some Russian expert commentator, from Russia, said Putin's ability to stay as the dictator would last only if oil price didn't come down to the 75-85 a barrel range; and that if it did, for a year or more, that there would be regime change in Russia, as both business men and women and citizens alike would not have a collapsing Russian economy, with Putin putting hundreds of billions of dollars, a year, into inedible military activities.
Unlike the USA and Western European nations, Russia gets a very substantial part of its operating budget directly from oil sales; so if crude oil prices drop to the $80-range, or lower, and stay there for a year or more, Mr. Putin would indeed be in trouble...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/31/ukraine-crisis-russia-economy-idUSL6N0PY3D920140731
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http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-burned-13-billion-to-prop-up-the-ruble-2014-10
KC
2014-10-17 20:11:20 UTC
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If the oil price goes down to $75 per B. and stays there for a few years, my guess is that Bush will invite Putin to go smoking at Long Cheng.

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Her Lao
2014-10-17 23:21:54 UTC
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Post by KC
If the oil price goes down to $75 per B. and stays there for a few years, my guess is that Bush will invite Putin to go smoking at Long Cheng.
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj58/casalao/PUTINBUSH.jpg
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/17/putin-is-destroying-russia-why-base-his-regime-on-corruption-asks-navalny


To make sure your "correct leadership" "stays strong and righteous," you simply jail all your opponents, after charging them with corruption, sedition, unpatriotic behaviors, espionage, traitorous activities, Satan worshiping, illegal tax evasion, child molestation, bigamy, CIA-double agent, and any thing else you want....

Imagine Obama charging Bush or Romney or McCain like that, AND VICE VERSA!, and each (whoever in power at the moment, who's able to put all his opponents in jail or long imprisonment), saying:

"This is how REAL DEMOCRACY works (if not elsewhere, then HERE, for us, who know what democracy really is): ---- by putting all evil doers and corrupters and people who have INCORRECT IDEAS in prison, so they won't corrupt our correct leaders!"
Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
2014-10-18 02:20:48 UTC
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Post by Her Lao
http://www.theguardian.com/world/iran-blog/2014/oct/15/iran-urged-emergency-opec-meeting-due-to-falling-oil-prices
Through manipulating oil prices.
This crude oil price drop, of course, is good for the general consumers, for a couple months at least... so I doubt many people would come to Mr. Putin's --- oil man of Russia's --- defense...
A couple months ago, when Putin first marched into Crimea, and, then, into eastern Ukraine, some Russian expert commentator, from Russia, said Putin's ability to stay as the dictator would last only if oil price didn't come down to the 75-85 a barrel range; and that if it did, for a year or more, that there would be regime change in Russia, as both business men and women and citizens alike would not have a collapsing Russian economy, with Putin putting hundreds of billions of dollars, a year, into inedible military activities.
Unlike the USA and Western European nations, Russia gets a very substantial part of its operating budget directly from oil sales; so if crude oil prices drop to the $80-range, or lower, and stay there for a year or more, Mr. Putin would indeed be in trouble...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/31/ukraine-crisis-russia-economy-idUSL6N0PY3D920140731
when things went WRONG too often one just need to follow VIETNAMESE MONK STYLE of soaking self with a few liters of gasoline walk out to the street and light up a match in about 2 minutes EVERYTHING is done. how about that for capital punishment. no need to use VEIN that took over 2 hours.

Her Lao
2014-11-22 21:44:20 UTC
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Now that anti-communist Repubs are in charge in Congress, it's time for regime change in the Soviet Union Russia!

Burn that red sicke-hammer flag in Moscow square!

McCain is dustin' his F-111, ready for the order from soon-to-be Prez Ted Cruz and Vice President "Bobby" Jindal, to bomb bomb bomb Mother Russia and Mr. Putin to the Stone Age!

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http://news.yahoo.com/lavrov-accuses-west-seeking-regime-change-russia-113633481.html

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov accused the West on Saturday of trying to use sanctions imposed on Moscow in the Ukraine crisis to seek "regime change" in Russia.

His comments stepped up Moscow's war of words with the United States and the European Union in their worst diplomatic standoff since the Cold War ended.

"As for the concept behind to the use of coercive measures, the West is making clear it does not want to force Russia to change policy but wants to secure regime change," Tass news agency quoted Lavrov as telling a meeting of the advisory Foreign and Defense Policy Council in Moscow.
Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
2014-11-23 04:08:59 UTC
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Post by Her Lao
Now that anti-communist Repubs are in charge in Congress, it's time for regime change in the Soviet Union Russia!
Burn that red sicke-hammer flag in Moscow square!
McCain is dustin' his F-111, ready for the order from soon-to-be Prez Ted Cruz and Vice President "Bobby" Jindal, to bomb bomb bomb Mother Russia and Mr. Putin to the Stone Age!
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http://news.yahoo.com/lavrov-accuses-west-seeking-regime-change-russia-113633481.html
MOSCOW (Reuters) - Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov accused the West on Saturday of trying to use sanctions imposed on Moscow in the Ukraine crisis to seek "regime change" in Russia.
His comments stepped up Moscow's war of words with the United States and the European Union in their worst diplomatic standoff since the Cold War ended.
"As for the concept behind to the use of coercive measures, the West is making clear it does not want to force Russia to change policy but wants to secure regime change," Tass news agency quoted Lavrov as telling a meeting of the advisory Foreign and Defense Policy Council in Moscow.
"regime hose change" WILL COME SOONER OR LATER might do it now that PUTIN has NOT SPENT all of his 40-70 billions$ to make sure those $ he corrupted from the people is still recoverable before he purchase 15 more helicopters and 43 more air crafts.It looks like PUTIN person AIR CRAFTS can conquer MOST countries on this PLANET.
Her Lao
2014-11-27 23:04:55 UTC
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http://www.bbc.com/news/business-30223721
Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
2014-11-28 00:30:32 UTC
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Post by Her Lao
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-30223721
OIL N DRUG are following vthe same ROUTE. if theQUOTA is at ZERO the PRICE will go through the roof WHILE NO NEW PEOPLE will get HOOKED to it WHICH mean a doom future for that MARKET which Opec doe NOT intended to CAP its market of OIL. this is a BALANCING TRICK to MANAGE and there are NEW SOURCESof EN3ERGY that are floating in the INTERNET that if TRUE can CHOKE OILBMARKET sch as THORIUM:

If scientist can make YHIS SOURCE USEABLE AS CLAIMED OIL will NO LONGER a need item on EARTH because a candy size 8 grams will LAST the car to RUN 100,000 MILES. at my driving rate it will last 5-6 years.
Her Lao
2014-12-02 03:53:04 UTC
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http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/12/1/russian-ruble-takesanosediveasoilpricedrops.html

From January 2014 to January 2015, the Russian Ruble will have lost roughly 45% of its value.

So lesser and lesser oil sales ---- comprising a very large part of Moscow's operating budget ---- is not the only major variable that would likely cause Putin's head to roll.

It is also that the Russians will have less and less money, in itself (due to their money's worth being reduced close to 45%), to spend, to buy the basic things they need, which of themselves becoming less and less, too, due to Putin putting some retaliatory action against America... as America and the EU produce a good chunk of the daily consumer goods Moscow's affluent people buy on a daily basis...
Her Lao
2014-12-02 04:12:42 UTC
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On Monday, December 1, 2014 9:53:06 PM UTC-6, Her Lao wrote:

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/12/1/russian-ruble-takesanosediveasoilpricedrops.html

From January 2014 to January 2015, the Russian Ruble will have lost roughly 45% of its value.

So lesser and lesser oil sales ---- comprising a very large part of Moscow's operating budget ---- is not the only major variable that would likely cause Putin's head to roll.

It is also that the Russians will have less and less money, in itself (due to their money's worth being reduced close to 45%), to spend, to buy the basic things they need, which of themselves becoming less and less, too, due to Putin putting some retaliatory action against America... as America and the EU produce a good chunk of the daily consumer goods Moscow's affluent people buy on a daily basis...

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http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/dec/01/russian-intervenes-central-bank-rouble-crumbles

Well, another problem: Russians wanting to convert their Rubles into Dollars or Euros, to make sure their wealth doesn't lose too much values.

That means the Russian government needs to entice Russians not to do that, by giving them sky-high interest rates, on their Rubles, staying as Rubles! That could also exacerbate other variables in the hand-inserted economic equations...
Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
2014-12-02 23:52:29 UTC
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Post by Her Lao
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/12/1/russian-ruble-takesanosediveasoilpricedrops.html
From January 2014 to January 2015, the Russian Ruble will have lost roughly 45% of its value.
So lesser and lesser oil sales ---- comprising a very large part of Moscow's operating budget ---- is not the only major variable that would likely cause Putin's head to roll.
It is also that the Russians will have less and less money, in itself (due to their money's worth being reduced close to 45%), to spend, to buy the basic things they need, which of themselves becoming less and less, too, due to Putin putting some retaliatory action against America... as America and the EU produce a good chunk of the daily consumer goods Moscow's affluent people buy on a daily basis...
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http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/dec/01/russian-intervenes-central-bank-rouble-crumbles
Well, another problem: Russians wanting to convert their Rubles into Dollars or Euros, to make sure their wealth doesn't lose too much values.
That means the Russian government needs to entice Russians not to do that, by giving them sky-high interest rates, on their Rubles, staying as Rubles! That could also exacerbate other variables in the hand-inserted economic equations...
IN MATH this 45% can be handle EXHANGE all rubles into DOLLARS or EUROS. AFTER the RUBLES are 45% down PUTIN'S money networth will still be the SAME BUT that 45% DOWN IS NOT GUARANTEE RIGHT? that mean the ruble could go UP instead of DOWN. which FALL INTO SPECULATION on FUTURE MONEY MARKET.LOTS OF EXPERTS are in this MARKET to EARN their BREAD and butter so DO NOT WORRY TOO MUCH about RUBLES GOING DOWN 45% PUTIN MIGHT has a better FORMULA that's WHY he is a BILLIONAIRE and we JOE NONAME ARE POOR because we MADE the WRONG FUTURE SPECULATION.
Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
2014-12-02 23:58:33 UTC
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Post by Her Lao
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/12/1/russian-ruble-takesanosediveasoilpricedrops.html
From January 2014 to January 2015, the Russian Ruble will have lost roughly 45% of its value.
So lesser and lesser oil sales ---- comprising a very large part of Moscow's operating budget ---- is not the only major variable that would likely cause Putin's head to roll.
It is also that the Russians will have less and less money, in itself (due to their money's worth being reduced close to 45%), to spend, to buy the basic things they need, which of themselves becoming less and less, too, due to Putin putting some retaliatory action against America... as America and the EU produce a good chunk of the daily consumer goods Moscow's affluent people buy on a daily basis...
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http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/dec/01/russian-intervenes-central-bank-rouble-crumbles
Well, another problem: Russians wanting to convert their Rubles into Dollars or Euros, to make sure their wealth doesn't lose too much values.
That means the Russian government needs to entice Russians not to do that, by giving them sky-high interest rates, on their Rubles, staying as Rubles! That could also exacerbate other variables in the hand-inserted economic equations...
IN MATH this 45% can be handle EXHANGE all rubles into DOLLARS or EUROS. AFTER the RUBLES are 45% down PUTIN'S money networth will still be the SAME BUT that 45% DOWN IS NOT GUARANTEE RIGHT? that mean the ruble could go UP instead of DOWN. which FALL INTO SPECULATION on FUTURE MONEY MARKET.LOTS OF EXPERTS are in this MARKET to EARN their BREAD and butter so DO NOT WORRY TOO MUCH about RUBLES GOING DOWN 45% PUTIN MIGHT has a better FORMULA that's WHY he is a BILLIONAIRE and we JOE NONAME ARE POOR because we MADE the WRONG FUTURE SPECULATION.
SOME ONE might TRUST that 45% down will come so HE BET his home and the whole FARM on that FUTURE SPECULATION. IF IT TURN UP FALSE he and his family need a dry under bridge tp survuve this WINTER.np CHRISTMAS TREE/GIFT.
Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
2014-12-03 00:01:37 UTC
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Post by Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
Post by Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
Post by Her Lao
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/12/1/russian-ruble-takesanosediveasoilpricedrops.html
From January 2014 to January 2015, the Russian Ruble will have lost roughly 45% of its value.
So lesser and lesser oil sales ---- comprising a very large part of Moscow's operating budget ---- is not the only major variable that would likely cause Putin's head to roll.
It is also that the Russians will have less and less money, in itself (due to their money's worth being reduced close to 45%), to spend, to buy the basic things they need, which of themselves becoming less and less, too, due to Putin putting some retaliatory action against America... as America and the EU produce a good chunk of the daily consumer goods Moscow's affluent people buy on a daily basis...
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http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/dec/01/russian-intervenes-central-bank-rouble-crumbles
Well, another problem: Russians wanting to convert their Rubles into Dollars or Euros, to make sure their wealth doesn't lose too much values.
That means the Russian government needs to entice Russians not to do that, by giving them sky-high interest rates, on their Rubles, staying as Rubles! That could also exacerbate other variables in the hand-inserted economic equations...
IN MATH this 45% can be handle EXHANGE all rubles into DOLLARS or EUROS. AFTER the RUBLES are 45% down PUTIN'S money networth will still be the SAME BUT that 45% DOWN IS NOT GUARANTEE RIGHT? that mean the ruble could go UP instead of DOWN. which FALL INTO SPECULATION on FUTURE MONEY MARKET.LOTS OF EXPERTS are in this MARKET to EARN their BREAD and butter so DO NOT WORRY TOO MUCH about RUBLES GOING DOWN 45% PUTIN MIGHT has a better FORMULA that's WHY he is a BILLIONAIRE and we JOE NONAME ARE POOR because we MADE the WRONG FUTURE SPECULATION.
SOME ONE might TRUST that 45% down will come so HE BET his home and the whole FARM on that FUTURE SPECULATION. IF IT TURN UP FALSE he and his family need a dry under bridge tp survuve this WINTER.np CHRISTMAS TREE/GIFT.
THIS TYPE of SPECULATION had made so many people RICHER and some has EMPTY HIS/HER WHOLE NET WORTH ON IT.
Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
2014-12-03 00:03:46 UTC
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Post by Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
Post by Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
Post by Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
Post by Her Lao
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/12/1/russian-ruble-takesanosediveasoilpricedrops.html
From January 2014 to January 2015, the Russian Ruble will have lost roughly 45% of its value.
So lesser and lesser oil sales ---- comprising a very large part of Moscow's operating budget ---- is not the only major variable that would likely cause Putin's head to roll.
It is also that the Russians will have less and less money, in itself (due to their money's worth being reduced close to 45%), to spend, to buy the basic things they need, which of themselves becoming less and less, too, due to Putin putting some retaliatory action against America... as America and the EU produce a good chunk of the daily consumer goods Moscow's affluent people buy on a daily basis...
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http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/dec/01/russian-intervenes-central-bank-rouble-crumbles
Well, another problem: Russians wanting to convert their Rubles into Dollars or Euros, to make sure their wealth doesn't lose too much values.
That means the Russian government needs to entice Russians not to do that, by giving them sky-high interest rates, on their Rubles, staying as Rubles! That could also exacerbate other variables in the hand-inserted economic equations...
IN MATH this 45% can be handle EXHANGE all rubles into DOLLARS or EUROS. AFTER the RUBLES are 45% down PUTIN'S money networth will still be the SAME BUT that 45% DOWN IS NOT GUARANTEE RIGHT? that mean the ruble could go UP instead of DOWN. which FALL INTO SPECULATION on FUTURE MONEY MARKET.LOTS OF EXPERTS are in this MARKET to EARN their BREAD and butter so DO NOT WORRY TOO MUCH about RUBLES GOING DOWN 45% PUTIN MIGHT has a better FORMULA that's WHY he is a BILLIONAIRE and we JOE NONAME ARE POOR because we MADE the WRONG FUTURE SPECULATION.
SOME ONE might TRUST that 45% down will come so HE BET his home and the whole FARM on that FUTURE SPECULATION. IF IT TURN UP FALSE he and his family need a dry under bridge tp survuve this WINTER.np CHRISTMAS TREE/GIFT.
THIS TYPE of SPECULATION had made so many people RICHER and some has EMPTY HIS/HER WHOLE NET WORTH ON IT.
THANKS FOR the INFO i'll go to bet 99 PENNIES on it.
Her Lao
2014-12-05 08:48:47 UTC
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/saudis-steeply-cuts-oil-prices-141135044.html


Hmmmmm, I wonder why mighty oil empire Saudi Arabia has decided to make oil ESPECIALLY CHEAP for the Asian markets....

Could it be that the Sauds are trying to under-cut Mr. Putin there, too?

Remember, Putin has just scraped the oil and gas projects going to Europe, pivoting, instead, to China and the rest of Asia, targeting them as the destinations for most of Russia large amounts of gas and oil experts....

Yes, China has ordered some $400B or so oil (or was it gas?) deal from Russia; but that's hardly enough for Russia to survive on.... especially when the USA, Japan, and 90% of Western Europe has decided to isolate the Russian Great Leader, Mr. Vladimir Putin... And it's not just oil and gas sales that are hurting Putin's finances; many of Russia's affluent and large cities which have become used to luxury imports from the WEST are seeing more and more empty shelves, too, PARTLY due to Putin's own retaliatory restrictions on those commodities....

And whatever savings the Russian middle class has, it has declined, in value vis-à-vis the dollar, which is the internationally favorite exchange currency, by roughly 50%...

In any event, Russia's Great Leader said:

"We shall soldier on and overcome these temporary obstacles. The West is going to lose and lose big, when they try to hurt the Russian people and their mighty empire! Nobody doe that and gets away with it! I, as your greatest ruler since Catherine the Great, I promise you that!"

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/World/2014/Dec-05/280004-putin-says-west-seeks-to-undermine-russia-describes-crimea-as-sacred.ashx
Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
2014-12-05 14:07:33 UTC
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Post by Her Lao
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/saudis-steeply-cuts-oil-prices-141135044.html
Hmmmmm, I wonder why mighty oil empire Saudi Arabia has decided to make oil ESPECIALLY CHEAP for the Asian markets....
Could it be that the Sauds are trying to under-cut Mr. Putin there, too?
Remember, Putin has just scraped the oil and gas projects going to Europe, pivoting, instead, to China and the rest of Asia, targeting them as the destinations for most of Russia large amounts of gas and oil experts....
Yes, China has ordered some $400B or so oil (or was it gas?) deal from Russia; but that's hardly enough for Russia to survive on.... especially when the USA, Japan, and 90% of Western Europe has decided to isolate the Russian Great Leader, Mr. Vladimir Putin... And it's not just oil and gas sales that are hurting Putin's finances; many of Russia's affluent and large cities which have become used to luxury imports from the WEST are seeing more and more empty shelves, too, PARTLY due to Putin's own retaliatory restrictions on those commodities....
And whatever savings the Russian middle class has, it has declined, in value vis-à-vis the dollar, which is the internationally favorite exchange currency, by roughly 50%...
"We shall soldier on and overcome these temporary obstacles. The West is going to lose and lose big, when they try to hurt the Russian people and their mighty empire! Nobody doe that and gets away with it! I, as your greatest ruler since Catherine the Great, I promise you that!"
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/World/2014/Dec-05/280004-putin-says-west-seeks-to-undermine-russia-describes-crimea-as-sacred.ashx
IN CAPITALISM most everything goes by the LAW of supply and DEMAND once RUSSIANS in millions NEEDS some PRODUCTS if US and EROPE try to block other country like JAPAN,KORA, or even THAILAND will sneak to deliver the SUPPLIES so RUSSIANS DO NOT has to WORRY too MUCH
Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
2014-12-05 14:15:12 UTC
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Post by Her Lao
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/saudis-steeply-cuts-oil-prices-141135044.html
Hmmmmm, I wonder why mighty oil empire Saudi Arabia has decided to make oil ESPECIALLY CHEAP for the Asian markets....
Could it be that the Sauds are trying to under-cut Mr. Putin there, too?
Remember, Putin has just scraped the oil and gas projects going to Europe, pivoting, instead, to China and the rest of Asia, targeting them as the destinations for most of Russia large amounts of gas and oil experts....
Yes, China has ordered some $400B or so oil (or was it gas?) deal from Russia; but that's hardly enough for Russia to survive on.... especially when the USA, Japan, and 90% of Western Europe has decided to isolate the Russian Great Leader, Mr. Vladimir Putin... And it's not just oil and gas sales that are hurting Putin's finances; many of Russia's affluent and large cities which have become used to luxury imports from the WEST are seeing more and more empty shelves, too, PARTLY due to Putin's own retaliatory restrictions on those commodities....
And whatever savings the Russian middle class has, it has declined, in value vis-à-vis the dollar, which is the internationally favorite exchange currency, by roughly 50%...
"We shall soldier on and overcome these temporary obstacles. The West is going to lose and lose big, when they try to hurt the Russian people and their mighty empire! Nobody doe that and gets away with it! I, as your greatest ruler since Catherine the Great, I promise you that!"
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/World/2014/Dec-05/280004-putin-says-west-seeks-to-undermine-russia-describes-crimea-as-sacred.ashx
THE SAUDI/RUSSIAN OIL/GAS also falls into the SAME SUPPLY and DEMAND LAW.when supply is MORE THAN DEMAND the PRICE GOES DOWN when the DEMAND is MORE THAN the AVAILABLE SUPPLY the PRICE will go above the ROOF.
Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
2014-12-05 14:35:17 UTC
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Post by Her Lao
http://www.theguardian.com/world/iran-blog/2014/oct/15/iran-urged-emergency-opec-meeting-due-to-falling-oil-prices
Through manipulating oil prices.
This crude oil price drop, of course, is good for the general consumers, for a couple months at least... so I doubt many people would come to Mr. Putin's --- oil man of Russia's --- defense...
A couple months ago, when Putin first marched into Crimea, and, then, into eastern Ukraine, some Russian expert commentator, from Russia, said Putin's ability to stay as the dictator would last only if oil price didn't come down to the 75-85 a barrel range; and that if it did, for a year or more, that there would be regime change in Russia, as both business men and women and citizens alike would not have a collapsing Russian economy, with Putin putting hundreds of billions of dollars, a year, into inedible military activities.
Unlike the USA and Western European nations, Russia gets a very substantial part of its operating budget directly from oil sales; so if crude oil prices drop to the $80-range, or lower, and stay there for a year or more, Mr. Putin would indeed be in trouble...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/31/ukraine-crisis-russia-economy-idUSL6N0PY3D920140731
US and EUROPE can BLOCK but DUE to NATURAL SUPPLY and DEMAND LAW other countries will JUMP to take the benefit such as here:

http://itar-tass.com/en/economy/765279

THAILAND is considered a US ALLY BUT IN SUPPLY and DEMAND THAILAND will choose to partner RUSSIA for better in PRICING and DEMAND. I WOULD BUY those AK74 too if AR15 is OUT of my budget.
Her Lao
2014-12-16 02:54:52 UTC
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http://fortune.com/2014/12/15/the-rubles-collapse-is-disastrous-for-putin-and-bad-for-you-too/

Dropping 11% IN ONE DAY, against the dollar, ain't right!

I know, such drastic drop in any one or two trading sessions is MOSTLY due to currency traders and other related speculations and hedging activities of serious currency traders... but, still, if your currency has dropped around 45% in ONE YEAR against the DOLLAR, the internal currency, and then ONE DAY it dropped a whopping 11%.... if YOU WERE Vladimir Putin, what would you do?

I think such acts ---- caused mostly by the USA and Western Europe ---- MAY PRODE Putin to ACT MORE IRRATIONAL, not less!

Right now, the Russians who really suffer are just the Middle to Lower classes; because the rich to very rich upper classes who are connected to powerful military and political leaders HAVE MOST OF THEIR WEALTH TIED to assets OUTSIDE OF RUSSIAN RUBLES... so the few millions they have in ruble/liquidity MAY have depreciated over the last year... but the bulk of their wealth is still safely stashed away IN FOREIGN SHORE ACCOUNTS...

But at this rate, even the rich would not feel comfortable... if they're going to drive around in expensive cars in expensive Moscow city with bread lines and soup kitchens poppin' up everywhere....
Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
2014-12-16 20:45:27 UTC
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Post by Her Lao
http://www.theguardian.com/world/iran-blog/2014/oct/15/iran-urged-emergency-opec-meeting-due-to-falling-oil-prices
Through manipulating oil prices.
This crude oil price drop, of course, is good for the general consumers, for a couple months at least... so I doubt many people would come to Mr. Putin's --- oil man of Russia's --- defense...
A couple months ago, when Putin first marched into Crimea, and, then, into eastern Ukraine, some Russian expert commentator, from Russia, said Putin's ability to stay as the dictator would last only if oil price didn't come down to the 75-85 a barrel range; and that if it did, for a year or more, that there would be regime change in Russia, as both business men and women and citizens alike would not have a collapsing Russian economy, with Putin putting hundreds of billions of dollars, a year, into inedible military activities.
Unlike the USA and Western European nations, Russia gets a very substantial part of its operating budget directly from oil sales; so if crude oil prices drop to the $80-range, or lower, and stay there for a year or more, Mr. Putin would indeed be in trouble...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/31/ukraine-crisis-russia-economy-idUSL6N0PY3D920140731
HE GOT BILLIONS so he wont go HUNGRY like me
KC
2014-12-17 01:00:58 UTC
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No way around, Putin must withdraw Russia's military power out of Ukraine, to avoid the go back in early 1980.
Her Lao
2014-12-18 20:23:08 UTC
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Post by KC
No way around, Putin must withdraw Russia's military power out of Ukraine, to avoid the go back in early 1980.
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Any guess what the elderly king of Saudi Arabia would want, for this stunt they pulled, with the Americans, to make black belt Vladimir look bad?

(When your economy is collapsing and you've been running your country for about 15 years, it is only a dictator who could say: "I'm not responsible for the economy or the national currency going down to the basement; it's the evil outsiders who are responsible" and get a resounding 85-90% approval!)

Is it possible that Saudi MIGHT EVEN BE ALLOWED to buy F-35s?

After all, the country is basically a large oil plantation, with the ruling families owning and running everyone and everything, with firm backing from the American ruling elites in Washington... with money being no object...

I am thinking that's probably one of the few things the Saudis really want, to make sure they keep up with Israel and Turkey, both of whom would be owning and flying F-35s in the next 3-6 years...

For going to war, flying F-15s and F-16s with Americans in the bombing of ISIS and Al Qaida, as well as for cornering Comrade Vladimir Putin, I think both the Saudis and AUE would like to ask for a huge favor from their "good friend," the USA... and the F-35 surely ranks at the very top...

In fact, I think the AUE might even get the F-35s before the much more conservative Saudis get them, being that the Americans elites are generally more comfortable with the AUE ruling elites, almost all of whom are young and educated in Europe and America... and they are much more westernized and relaxed on women and equality issues, even if they are nowhere on a par with any Western country....
Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
2014-12-18 15:11:42 UTC
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Post by Her Lao
http://www.theguardian.com/world/iran-blog/2014/oct/15/iran-urged-emergency-opec-meeting-due-to-falling-oil-prices
Through manipulating oil prices.
This crude oil price drop, of course, is good for the general consumers, for a couple months at least... so I doubt many people would come to Mr. Putin's --- oil man of Russia's --- defense...
A couple months ago, when Putin first marched into Crimea, and, then, into eastern Ukraine, some Russian expert commentator, from Russia, said Putin's ability to stay as the dictator would last only if oil price didn't come down to the 75-85 a barrel range; and that if it did, for a year or more, that there would be regime change in Russia, as both business men and women and citizens alike would not have a collapsing Russian economy, with Putin putting hundreds of billions of dollars, a year, into inedible military activities.
Unlike the USA and Western European nations, Russia gets a very substantial part of its operating budget directly from oil sales; so if crude oil prices drop to the $80-range, or lower, and stay there for a year or more, Mr. Putin would indeed be in trouble...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/31/ukraine-crisis-russia-economy-idUSL6N0PY3D920140731
let THEM OILDROP to1$/B so that i PAY 10 cents a galon or LESSat the pump. my current FUEL BUDGET run as HIGH as 50$ a week which mean I HAVE to SKIP LUNCH a few days a week. the LUNCH MENU here indicates 5-15 dollars a lunch MEAL jf that GAS/FUEL BUDGET can be LOWER to 5$/a week than that left over 45$ can be forward to my kids EDUCATION.
Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
2014-12-19 01:52:11 UTC
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Post by Her Lao
http://www.theguardian.com/world/iran-blog/2014/oct/15/iran-urged-emergency-opec-meeting-due-to-falling-oil-prices
Through manipulating oil prices.
This crude oil price drop, of course, is good for the general consumers, for a couple months at least... so I doubt many people would come to Mr. Putin's --- oil man of Russia's --- defense...
A couple months ago, when Putin first marched into Crimea, and, then, into eastern Ukraine, some Russian expert commentator, from Russia, said Putin's ability to stay as the dictator would last only if oil price didn't come down to the 75-85 a barrel range; and that if it did, for a year or more, that there would be regime change in Russia, as both business men and women and citizens alike would not have a collapsing Russian economy, with Putin putting hundreds of billions of dollars, a year, into inedible military activities.
Unlike the USA and Western European nations, Russia gets a very substantial part of its operating budget directly from oil sales; so if crude oil prices drop to the $80-range, or lower, and stay there for a year or more, Mr. Putin would indeed be in trouble...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/31/ukraine-crisis-russia-economy-idUSL6N0PY3D920140731
Saudi WAS the BAS for US battles in that region in the last few WARS so it ONLY make sense for US to BOOST Saudi POWER in that region will ENSURE:
#1 CHEAPEROIL for US
#2 FUTURE BASE for US since the US is HOT against ISIS at this time and that region is FULL of ISLAM-ISIS. BOMB BOMB and MORE. US wich the sand can be BURN like those FOREST in VIETNAM so that a few NAPALM BOB can destroy kilometers wide. just add a few million MINI CLUSTER BOMBS too will be a sorrow LOOSER formula just like 1975 in VIETNAM.
Her Lao
2014-12-20 05:29:56 UTC
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http://www.bbc.com/news/business-30552925

Some 2-3 years back, giant food companies like General Mills, Tyson, Kraft, Nestle, Cargill, etc --- who have expertise in consolidation, manufacturing, packaging, delivery, and logistics --- were talking about going to Russia's potentially giant food bowl (southern Russia to Siberia are ripening up for wheat, buckwheat [Russia's favorite stable), potatoes, and other grains/cereal crops and fruits and vegetable plants... due to the average global temperature going up, thawing vast permafrost areas that was previously un-plantable...

Now, even car companies are reducing, minimizing or stopping altogether their car businesses there, due to the compounding sanctions levied against Russia in general as well as individuals and their businesses, which range from banks to oil and other energy sectors...

But, don't worry, Vladimir Putin said, two days ago, during his speech to the Russian folks. Why? Because I am still very popular among you, my supporters. While Obama, Cameron, Hollande, Merkel, and other evil Western leaders are down in the 50, 40, and 30 percent poll ranges, I am in the 80 and 90% popularity polls, Vladimir Putin assured his compatriots...

Yeah, I am sure that'd help feed them all right.

Kim Jong Un's popularity polls --- as well as this dead father and grandfather ---- are always in the 99 to 100% range, and the North Koreans could do little but congregate weekly, dressed in all kinds of very colorful dresses, to parade and to applaud the young fat idiot they have for leader... sorry.... I mean the Great, Wise, and Benevolent Leader... with monthly demand of the world: You don't send us more rice, that's all we demand, RICE... you don't do that, we gonna ramp up our nukular bomb building activities!
Her Lao
2014-12-20 06:01:42 UTC
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Talking about the devil... I mean, the Great, Wise, and Benevolent Leader of the Great People's Democratic Republic of (North) Korea ...

He's invited to Russia, so the two great leaders could strategize ways to bring down the Great Satan, the USA and its leader in Obama and its underlings, Western European nations and leaders...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/19/vladimir-putin-invites-north-korea-kim-jong-un-moscow
Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
2014-12-20 12:29:39 UTC
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Post by Her Lao
Talking about the devil... I mean, the Great, Wise, and Benevolent Leader of the Great People's Democratic Republic of (North) Korea ...
He's invited to Russia, so the two great leaders could strategize ways to bring down the Great Satan, the USA and its leader in Obama and its underlings, Western European nations and leaders...
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/19/vladimir-putin-invites-north-korea-kim-jong-un-moscow
RUSSIA had been STAMPED-OUT as a MAJOR THREAT to USA and other EUROPEANS countries since the BREAK DOWN of SOVIET UNION in 1991. as such, RUSSIAN did NOT had the TOOTH and WING that other used to FEAR. by COMBO FORCES of RUSSIA and NORTH KOREA and INCLUDING CHINS to them will NOT be too much of a threat to US and WESTERN ALLIES. they can finish the COMMIE within 72 hours of initiating a WAR. the COMMIES is about to RETIRE on PLANET EARTH. all other SMALLER COMMIE countries will be making MASSIVE FLIP/SWITCH their alliance to CAPITALISM. THEM COMMIES know the MOST they can go-up the TREE of COMMIE is just like SOVIET UNION and GERMANY. the TOP level had ALREADY CRUSHED so no one desire to FOLLOW the ALWAYS WRONG LEADERS/KILLERS POLITBURO. it's a time for CAPITALISM FAVORITE HARVESTING SEASON on EARTH by ensuring the COMMIE side of BERLIN gave up HIS COMMIE SYSTEM follow by BREAKING UP that COMMIE SOVIET UNION. the COMMIE side is TTO WEAK to butcher a CHUCKEN in this NEW TECHNOLOGY ERA of the 4th and 5th AIR FIGHTER/BOMBERS. I GUESS AREA 51 works for the CAPITALISM team. to CAUSE STROKES and PARALYZE to the COMMIES.
ຜີ
2014-12-20 19:06:14 UTC
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Wow, very insightful. You must have PhD in Political Sciences and specialized in art of warfare. Knowing every gritty detail how people think added to your specialty. Oh yeah, I forgot, you are American so you must know all of these.
Her Lao
2015-02-06 19:38:27 UTC
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/russians-advised-pull-money-banks-145700524.html

If I were a Russian, I sure would have liked to have been "advised" of something like that 6 to 9 months ago, at least.

Now, my roubles's worth only 1/3 of what they were, with respect to the internationally valuable dollars, a year ago... that's nothing to Putin's billionaire pals; but if you're a doctor, teacher, nurse, engineers, gardeners, farmer, et al., it must have been tough...

And NOW they "advise" you to withdraw all those 1/3-worth-to-the-dollar AND switch to dollars? That's like rubbing salt on a wound...
little FAT BigFOOT,BigHEAD2
2015-02-07 02:48:14 UTC
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Rub salt+ venegar + sugar and in 6-12months we got Padek. Sounds GOOD. I WILL MIX a few jars of 10 gallons buckets
Her Lao
2015-07-30 11:36:13 UTC
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http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/28/investing/oil-prices-20-percent-plunge-july/index.html?iid=ob_homepage_deskrecommended_pool&iid=obnetwork

The last time I posted on the price of oil, it was hovering around $50-$60 range, moved up to the $60 range and stayed there for a while, as if Mr. Putin's fear of oil staying below $70 could be coming to an end, and it means he could, then, again, put more oil money into his military build-up.

Now, roughly 5 months later, after some small up and down moves, it has gone down to around $45.

Fortunately, for Putin, the new King of Saudi Arabia said his country would EASE and "trim down" a bit on their large crude-out put, an act that has so far put a large amount of crude in the markets, depressing oil sales by countries like Irain, Russia, Venezuela, etc. that depend very substantially on oil sales to balance their books...

Could it be that, after meeting with Putin, the new king of Saudi Arabia was promiesd CHEAP anti-ballistic missiles, which the Saudis are buying hand over fist, now that their arch enemy, the Persians, have come to an agreement on nuclear arms?.... a deal that would, eventually, allow Iran to buy ANY CONVENTIONAL WEAPONS it wants, something that rightfully frightens its enemies like Saudi Arabia and Israel...
Her Lao
2015-08-13 01:57:05 UTC
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-10/russian-recession-finds-no-bottom-as-economic-skid-picks-up-pace?cmpid=yhoo
MadMostOfTheTime
2015-08-15 04:04:25 UTC
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Post by Her Lao
http://www.theguardian.com/world/iran-blog/2014/oct/15/iran-urged-emergency-opec-meeting-due-to-falling-oil-prices
Through manipulating oil prices.
This crude oil price drop, of course, is good for the general consumers, for a couple months at least... so I doubt many people would come to Mr. Putin's --- oil man of Russia's --- defense...
A couple months ago, when Putin first marched into Crimea, and, then, into eastern Ukraine, some Russian expert commentator, from Russia, said Putin's ability to stay as the dictator would last only if oil price didn't come down to the 75-85 a barrel range; and that if it did, for a year or more, that there would be regime change in Russia, as both business men and women and citizens alike would not have a collapsing Russian economy, with Putin putting hundreds of billions of dollars, a year, into inedible military activities.
Unlike the USA and Western European nations, Russia gets a very substantial part of its operating budget directly from oil sales; so if crude oil prices drop to the $80-range, or lower, and stay there for a year or more, Mr. Putin would indeed be in trouble...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/31/ukraine-crisis-russia-economy-idUSL6N0PY3D920140731
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