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"After Joining The WTO, What's Next For Laos?"
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SULILEC
2014-08-19 21:30:52 UTC
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ເບິ່ງແລ້ວເປັນຕາຢາກຫົວດີຄືກັນເລີຍເອົາມາໃຫ້ເບິ່ງວ່າຄິດກັນແນວໃດ....ຫຶຫຶຫຶ
ຜູ່ກ່ຽວບໍ່ຮູ້ວ່າຍິ້ມຫຼຶຫົວໃນທ່າຖ່າຍຮູບ...ເພາະຫົວຂໍ້ນັ້ນ ປະກົດວ່າຍັງບໍ່ໄດ້ຕອບເທື່ອ...ວ່າຈະເຮັດແນວໃດຕໍ່ໄປ...

ອັນນີ້ເຄີຍເຫັນລີງໄດ້ໝາກພ້າວໃຫ່ຍ ເປັນຕາຢາກຫົວແທ້ໆ...ຫວັງວ່າ ສປປລ ຄົງດີກົ່ວລີງໄດ້ໝາກພ້າວຢູ່ຕິບໍ?...
ຫວັງວ່າແນວນັ້ນ...

sulilec


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Deputy U.S. Trade Representative and U.S. Permanent Representative to the World Trade Organization and Dr. Nam Viyaketh, Minister of Industry and Commerce of the Lao People’s Democratic Republic, signed a WTO bilateral market access agreement as part of Lao PDR’s negotiations to join the World Trade Organization (W
thanouxay
2014-08-20 09:00:22 UTC
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This article was originally published by the East Asia Forum on 9 August 2014.

Earlier this year Laos celebrated the first anniversary of its WTO membership. Laos' accession to the WTO has been less talked about than that of its neighbours China and Vietnam, who joined the organisation in 2001 and 2007, respectively. This is partly due to Laos being a small, landlocked economy whose accession would not be expected to make a big impact on international trade.

But Laos' clout is more than may first appear.

Until recently Laos had been the only member of ASEAN that remained outside the WTO. Laos' membership in the WTO has strengthened ASEAN's position in the multilateral trading system. ASEAN now has a louder voice at the WTO negotiating table. And, given it is a sizeable market of over 600 million people, ASEAN cannot be overlooked. ASEAN is also one of the world's most dynamic trading blocks and is aiming to establish an economic community by 2015.

The admission of Laos also demonstrates that the WTO is an inclusive organisation for least developed countries (LDCs). There have been heated debates over whether WTO accession has become tougher and takes a longer time to complete. The accession of Laos is no exception to this trend -- negotiations took 15 years to complete. When Laos entered the WTO, then director-general of the WTO Pascal Lamy remarked, 'Laos has come a long way since it embarked on the road to membership in 1997'. He added that the process has never been easy for LDCs.

Laos' initial accession steps were slow, but the country has recently reformed its economy and domestic institutions to align with international trade rules.

Laos has agreed to similar terms of WTO membership to other LDC applicants. Laos has bound its tariffs at 18.8 per cent on average for all products (19.3 per cent in agriculture and 18.7 per cent in non-agricultural sectors). In terms of services, Laos has committed to liberalise 10 sectors (or 79 sub-sectors): business services; courier and telecoms; construction; distribution; private education; environmental services; insurance; banking; private healthcare; tourism; and air transport services. These commitments will be implemented fully over a maximum period of seven years after the date of accession.

Laos has also agreed to adhere to WTO principles, including those related to trading rights; import licensing; customs valuation; investment; sanitary and phytosanitary measures; technical barriers to trade; trade in services; and trade-related intellectual property rights.

The government is working on disseminating its accession package to different stakeholders. On the one hand, this aims to ensure government agencies at various levels understand the contractual obligations that Laos now has with the international community. On the other, it aims to educate the business community and the public at large of the opportunities that arise from joining the WTO.

Laos has used its WTO accession to implement its decision to establish a market economy. The accession process allows countries to align their trade policy with the principles of non-discrimination and transparency. Over the course of 15 years of accession negotiations, Laos enacted some 90 laws and regulations to bring them in line with WTO rules. This is expected to help create an enabling environment for the private sector. Such reform momentum should be maintained post-accession if Laos is to be competitive in the region.

WTO membership provides export opportunities for Laos, but such opportunities need to be realised. Despite its relatively robust growth of around 7.5 per cent per year over the last decade, Laos has to broaden its export base. To date, its exports are dominated by a limited number of products, mainly resource-based products (mining and electricity), primary commodities (agriculture and wood) and products with low value add (garments). Opening up the internal market to
foreign competition will help to stimulate reform in both the import-competing and export-oriented sectors.

Laos has bound its tariffs for all agricultural and industrial products, while a grace period has been granted for tariffs on items that are significant parts of Laos' domestic production or tariffs that contribute significantly to government revenue. In the medium to long term, alternative measures that are legal under the WTO, such as trade remedies, need to be put in place to address the possible impacts of an import surge.

Adapting to the WTO rules is a long-term challenge. Both the public and private sectors need to be prepared. Joining the WTO is not an end in itself. It is a tool to assist countries in adjusting their internal system to the norms of the world trade community. The true benefits of WTO accession can only be gained if Laos takes the results of the accession negotiations seriously and implements its obligations proactively -- but its first year has been a good start.

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Buavanh Vilavong is a PhD scholar at the Crawford School of Public Policy, ANU. He was previously part of Laos' negotiation team on WTO accession and retains his position as Deputy Director General in the Ministry of Industry and Commerce.
SULILEC
2014-08-21 23:02:21 UTC
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Dear Thanouxay:
Just curious of your posting that now you had posted the whole article. Where did the saying that WTO will opening up Laos product to USA so that a person like myself can use. ຖ້າບໍ່ມີຫຍັງຂ້າຍດິບດີນັ້ນປາແດກຢູ່ລາວແຊບກົ່ວປາແດກຢູ່ອະເມຣິກາບໍ່?
ປາແດກຢູ່ກະເມຣິກາແຊບຢູ່ເນີ ຫຶຫຶຫຶ ເຖິ່ງປາບໍ່ແມ່ນປາລາວກໍ່ຕາມເນີ...
Post by thanouxay
This article was originally published by the East Asia Forum on 9 August 2014.
Earlier this year Laos celebrated the first anniversary of its WTO membership. Laos' accession to the WTO has been less talked about than that of its neighbours China and Vietnam, who joined the organisation in 2001 and 2007, respectively. This is partly due to Laos being a small, landlocked economy whose accession would not be expected to make a big impact on international trade.
But Laos' clout is more than may first appear.
Until recently Laos had been the only member of ASEAN that remained outside the WTO. Laos' membership in the WTO has strengthened ASEAN's position in the multilateral trading system. ASEAN now has a louder voice at the WTO negotiating table. And, given it is a sizeable market of over 600 million people, ASEAN cannot be overlooked. ASEAN is also one of the world's most dynamic trading blocks and is aiming to establish an economic community by 2015.
The admission of Laos also demonstrates that the WTO is an inclusive organisation for least developed countries (LDCs). There have been heated debates over whether WTO accession has become tougher and takes a longer time to complete. The accession of Laos is no exception to this trend -- negotiations took 15 years to complete. When Laos entered the WTO, then director-general of the WTO Pascal Lamy remarked, 'Laos has come a long way since it embarked on the road to membership in 1997'. He added that the process has never been easy for LDCs.
Laos' initial accession steps were slow, but the country has recently reformed its economy and domestic institutions to align with international trade rules.
Laos has agreed to similar terms of WTO membership to other LDC applicants. Laos has bound its tariffs at 18.8 per cent on average for all products (19.3 per cent in agriculture and 18.7 per cent in non-agricultural sectors). In terms of services, Laos has committed to liberalise 10 sectors (or 79 sub-sectors): business services; courier and telecoms; construction; distribution; private education; environmental services; insurance; banking; private healthcare; tourism; and air transport services. These commitments will be implemented fully over a maximum period of seven years after the date of accession.
Laos has also agreed to adhere to WTO principles, including those related to trading rights; import licensing; customs valuation; investment; sanitary and phytosanitary measures; technical barriers to trade; trade in services; and trade-related intellectual property rights.
The government is working on disseminating its accession package to different stakeholders. On the one hand, this aims to ensure government agencies at various levels understand the contractual obligations that Laos now has with the international community. On the other, it aims to educate the business community and the public at large of the opportunities that arise from joining the WTO.
Laos has used its WTO accession to implement its decision to establish a market economy. The accession process allows countries to align their trade policy with the principles of non-discrimination and transparency. Over the course of 15 years of accession negotiations, Laos enacted some 90 laws and regulations to bring them in line with WTO rules. This is expected to help create an enabling environment for the private sector. Such reform momentum should be maintained post-accession if Laos is to be competitive in the region.
WTO membership provides export opportunities for Laos, but such opportunities need to be realised. Despite its relatively robust growth of around 7.5 per cent per year over the last decade, Laos has to broaden its export base. To date, its exports are dominated by a limited number of products, mainly resource-based products (mining and electricity), primary commodities (agriculture and wood) and products with low value add (garments). Opening up the internal market to
foreign competition will help to stimulate reform in both the import-competing and export-oriented sectors.
Laos has bound its tariffs for all agricultural and industrial products, while a grace period has been granted for tariffs on items that are significant parts of Laos' domestic production or tariffs that contribute significantly to government revenue. In the medium to long term, alternative measures that are legal under the WTO, such as trade remedies, need to be put in place to address the possible impacts of an import surge.
Adapting to the WTO rules is a long-term challenge. Both the public and private sectors need to be prepared. Joining the WTO is not an end in itself. It is a tool to assist countries in adjusting their internal system to the norms of the world trade community. The true benefits of WTO accession can only be gained if Laos takes the results of the accession negotiations seriously and implements its obligations proactively -- but its first year has been a good start.
For more information on issues and events that shape our world, please visit ISN Security Watch or browse our resources.
Buavanh Vilavong is a PhD scholar at the Crawford School of Public Policy, ANU. He was previously part of Laos' negotiation team on WTO accession and retains his position as Deputy Director General in the Ministry of Industry and Commerce.
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2014-08-22 01:30:29 UTC
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Post by SULILEC
Just curious of your posting that now you had posted the whole article. Where did the saying that WTO will opening up Laos product to USA so that a person like myself can use. ຖ້າບໍ່ມີຫຍັງຂ້າຍດິບດີນັ້ນປາແດກຢູ່ລາວແຊບກົ່ວປາແດກຢູ່ອະເມຣິກາບໍ່?
ປາແດກຢູ່ກະເມຣິກາແຊບຢູ່ເນີ ຫຶຫຶຫຶ ເຖິ່ງປາບໍ່ແມ່ນປາລາວກໍ່ຕາມເນີ...
Post by thanouxay
This article was originally published by the East Asia Forum on 9 August 2014.
Earlier this year Laos celebrated the first anniversary of its WTO membership. Laos' accession to the WTO has been less talked about than that of its neighbours China and Vietnam, who joined the organisation in 2001 and 2007, respectively. This is partly due to Laos being a small, landlocked economy whose accession would not be expected to make a big impact on international trade.
But Laos' clout is more than may first appear.
Until recently Laos had been the only member of ASEAN that remained outside the WTO. Laos' membership in the WTO has strengthened ASEAN's position in the multilateral trading system. ASEAN now has a louder voice at the WTO negotiating table. And, given it is a sizeable market of over 600 million people, ASEAN cannot be overlooked. ASEAN is also one of the world's most dynamic trading blocks and is aiming to establish an economic community by 2015.
The admission of Laos also demonstrates that the WTO is an inclusive organisation for least developed countries (LDCs). There have been heated debates over whether WTO accession has become tougher and takes a longer time to complete. The accession of Laos is no exception to this trend -- negotiations took 15 years to complete. When Laos entered the WTO, then director-general of the WTO Pascal Lamy remarked, 'Laos has come a long way since it embarked on the road to membership in 1997'. He added that the process has never been easy for LDCs.
Laos' initial accession steps were slow, but the country has recently reformed its economy and domestic institutions to align with international trade rules.
Laos has agreed to similar terms of WTO membership to other LDC applicants. Laos has bound its tariffs at 18.8 per cent on average for all products (19.3 per cent in agriculture and 18.7 per cent in non-agricultural sectors). In terms of services, Laos has committed to liberalise 10 sectors (or 79 sub-sectors): business services; courier and telecoms; construction; distribution; private education; environmental services; insurance; banking; private healthcare; tourism; and air transport services. These commitments will be implemented fully over a maximum period of seven years after the date of accession.
Laos has also agreed to adhere to WTO principles, including those related to trading rights; import licensing; customs valuation; investment; sanitary and phytosanitary measures; technical barriers to trade; trade in services; and trade-related intellectual property rights.
The government is working on disseminating its accession package to different stakeholders. On the one hand, this aims to ensure government agencies at various levels understand the contractual obligations that Laos now has with the international community. On the other, it aims to educate the business community and the public at large of the opportunities that arise from joining the WTO.
Laos has used its WTO accession to implement its decision to establish a market economy. The accession process allows countries to align their trade policy with the principles of non-discrimination and transparency. Over the course of 15 years of accession negotiations, Laos enacted some 90 laws and regulations to bring them in line with WTO rules. This is expected to help create an enabling environment for the private sector. Such reform momentum should be maintained post-accession if Laos is to be competitive in the region.
WTO membership provides export opportunities for Laos, but such opportunities need to be realised. Despite its relatively robust growth of around 7.5 per cent per year over the last decade, Laos has to broaden its export base. To date, its exports are dominated by a limited number of products, mainly resource-based products (mining and electricity), primary commodities (agriculture and wood) and products with low value add (garments). Opening up the internal market to
foreign competition will help to stimulate reform in both the import-competing and export-oriented sectors.
Laos has bound its tariffs for all agricultural and industrial products, while a grace period has been granted for tariffs on items that are significant parts of Laos' domestic production or tariffs that contribute significantly to government revenue. In the medium to long term, alternative measures that are legal under the WTO, such as trade remedies, need to be put in place to address the possible impacts of an import surge.
Adapting to the WTO rules is a long-term challenge. Both the public and private sectors need to be prepared. Joining the WTO is not an end in itself. It is a tool to assist countries in adjusting their internal system to the norms of the world trade community. The true benefits of WTO accession can only be gained if Laos takes the results of the accession negotiations seriously and implements its obligations proactively -- but its first year has been a good start.
For more information on issues and events that shape our world, please visit ISN Security Watch or browse our resources.
Buavanh Vilavong is a PhD scholar at the Crawford School of Public Policy, ANU. He was previously part of Laos' negotiation team on WTO accession and retains his position as Deputy Director General in the Ministry of Industry and Commerce.
agreed on ¨ປາແດກ¨ herein USA the taste of ປາແດກ is NOT as good as those I ATE IN Laos ESPECIALLY THOSE NEAR NAKANG. I complaint all the time when i had ປາແດກ for a MEAL herein USA. my wife said OLDER one is always better including my GIRLFRIENDS. SHE SAIS THOSE I FOUND LATER IN LIFE ARE those that feel like a guy when i sleep with at night while those first few one i met she seemed like a true girl. soft an gentle. now that I come to think about it a little more I think the taste of ປາແດກ in this country is off the taste because the maker use the cheap type of fish. the fish the used here are those small silver fish the size in the range of 1-3 inches ONLY while those ປາແດກ i ate in LAOS ate are made of BIGGER fish the size range of 3-5 inches of CATFISH. if you look at the meat texture carefully you will see the BIG different. the taste itself is worth ZERO for the new ones pf which I already QUIT buying them anymore. if the fish is the same THAN it is definitely the skill of the new generation that is getting worst now a day.
thanouxay
2014-08-22 14:24:30 UTC
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With regard to importation of Padek to US market, please read the following article to better understand how difficult to infiltrate a market and especially a very strict rules on Sanitary and photo sanitary Measures (SPS) to protect the life and health of the customers.

This document is one of four country studies conducted in Southeast Asia (Cambodia, Lao PDR, Philippines and Thailand) as part of STDF regional research on the implementation of SPS measures to facilitate safe trade.[1] Parallel regional research was carried out in Africa by the STDF, in collaboration with Trade Mark Southern Africa, and in Latin America by the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB). The preliminary findings of the regional research were presented at an STDF thematic session in Geneva on 26 March 2014.





The inspiration for the STDF research is the increased interest in developing countries and the trade and development community in trade facilitation, which is also evidenced by the adoption of a new WTO Agreement on Trade Facilitation in December 2013.[2] It is based on the common understanding that trade can be an important tool for economic growth and the reduction of poverty. The objectives of the STDF regional research are: (i) to draw attention to the synergies between the implementation of SPS measures and trade facilitation; (ii) to identify key needs, opportunities and good practices to improve the implementation of SPS measures in a way that ensures an appropriate level of health protection while minimizing trade transaction costs; and (iii) to make recommendations to enhance future work and technical cooperation focused on SPS and trade facilitation.

Members of the WTO have the sovereign right to restrict trade for the protection of human, plant and animal life or health against trade-related risks, provided that they follow the relevant principles of the WTO and, in particular, the Agreement on the Application of Sanitary and Phytosanitary Measures (SPS Agreement).[3] The main principles of the WTO framework are that SPS measures should be non-discriminatory, transparent, science-based and not more trade-restrictive than required to achieve the appropriate level of protection. SPS measures that meet these principles are considered as legitimate non-tariff measures.

The SPS Agreement requires WTO Members to accept measures of other Members that are equivalent in providing the appropriate level of protection. It also strongly encourages Members to harmonize their measures by adopting international standards, guidelines and recommendations developed by three international standard setting bodies (ISSBs), notably the Codex Alimentarius Commission (Codex), the International Plant Protection Convention (IPPC), and the World Organisation for Animal Health (OIE). However, countries are allowed to apply stricter requirements as long as these measures are based on scientific justification, which includes an assessment of risks. Countries may also apply fewer and less stringent standards, or opt not to apply international SPS standards, provided that this does not affect the rights of other countries under the multilateral trade rules.

Trade facilitation refers to the simplification and harmonization of required processes, procedures and information flows for border clearance. Trade facilitation is optimal if transaction costs for legitimate trade are as low as possible.[4] If SPS measures do not disrupt trade more than necessary to achieve the appropriate level of protection, then they are in harmony with trade facilitation. If the transaction costs of SPS measures to traders are higher than necessary to achieve the appropriate level of protection, they should be considered as trade-disruptive.

The SPS Agreement focuses mainly on principles to observe in protecting human, animal or plant life or health and less on practical implementation modalities. Nevertheless, the Agreement also provides guidance in several articles, and in particular in Annex C, on control, inspection and approval procedures, and on avoiding unnecessary trade disruption and transaction costs for traders. The ISSBs referenced in the SPS Agreement (i.e. Codex, IPPC and OIE) focus on the development of international standards for health protection, some of which provide guidance for good practice on topics referred to in Annex C and related to trade facilitation. However, a comprehensive compilation of good practice guidance for the implementation of SPS measures does not exist.

Most WTO Members are still in the process of incrementally applying WTO principles correctly. As a result, in many countries, SPS measures deliver less health protection than desirable and disrupt trade more than necessary. The reasons for non-compliance variously include lack of awareness, limited capacity in SPS management, weak governance, health protection measures that are unnecessarily costly, insufficient funding of SPS operational costs, and use of SPS measures for purposes other than health protection (e.g. protection of domestic production/industry or rent-seeking). Complexities and inefficiencies in SPS control processes may also cause extra administrative and internal business costs to traders.

The research in Lao PDR collected and analyzed information on how selected SPS measures are implemented in practice for specific product groups based on the provisions of the SPS Agreement and selected texts of Codex, IPPC and OIE. It explored the transaction costs of SPS measures for selected product groups, and considered how improving compliance with WTO principles can facilitate trade and contribute to better health protection. This report presents the findings of this country-level research. It is structured as follows. Section II outlines the methodology for the research in Lao PDR, which reflects the approach taken in all the countries included in the research in Southeast Asia. Section III presents the key findings, followed by an analysis in Section IV. The final section offers recommendations for improved implementation of SPS measures in Lao PDR.



[1] For more information, see: http://www.standardsfacility.org/en/TATradeFacilitation.htm

[2] WT/MIN(13)/36 , WT/L/911, WTO, Ministerial Conference, Ninth Session, Bali, 3-6 December 2013. Annexes to the Agreement are being prepared, with full acceptance planned by 31 July 2015. Much work will be required on implementation of the Trade Facilitation Agreement and on alignment with the SPS Agreement. The STDF research focuses on the general broad concept of trade facilitation, and not on the new Trade Facilitation Agreement.

[3] The text of the SPS Agreement is included in the Final Act of the Uruguay Round of Multilateral Trade Negotiations, signed in Marrakesh on 15 April 1994, and is available on the WTO website http://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/sps_e/spsagr_e.htm#fnt5

[4] From economic growth and poverty reduction points of view, unnecessary transaction costs on imports and exports are undesirable because they reduce purchasing power of consumers, waste public and private resources and undermine competiveness.

We are in negotiation to comply with all those international norms and regulations and who know, if one day you will be able to buy and consume authentic Lao Padek in US market.
pizone
2014-08-22 19:09:36 UTC
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if it's hard for the lpdr to make padek, why you guys just pack Hum (i mean rice husk or hull, not testicle) and to sell in the usa so we lao-folks can use it to make padek for ourselves and can export back to laos.

it's easy to make padek. it's the best if you have the new crop rice's husk (Hum) as the main ingredient.

pizone
Post by thanouxay
With regard to importation of Padek to US market, please read the following article to better understand how difficult to infiltrate a market and especially a very strict rules on Sanitary and photo sanitary Measures (SPS) to protect the life and health of the customers.
This document is one of four country studies conducted in Southeast Asia (Cambodia, Lao PDR, Philippines and Thailand) as part of STDF regional research on the implementation of SPS measures to facilitate safe trade.[1] Parallel regional research was carried out in Africa by the STDF, in collaboration with Trade Mark Southern Africa, and in Latin America by the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB). The preliminary findings of the regional research were presented at an STDF thematic session in Geneva on 26 March 2014.
The inspiration for the STDF research is the increased interest in developing countries and the trade and development community in trade facilitation, which is also evidenced by the adoption of a new WTO Agreement on Trade Facilitation in December 2013.[2] It is based on the common understanding that trade can be an important tool for economic growth and the reduction of poverty. The objectives of the STDF regional research are: (i) to draw attention to the synergies between the implementation of SPS measures and trade facilitation; (ii) to identify key needs, opportunities and good practices to improve the implementation of SPS measures in a way that ensures an appropriate level of health protection while minimizing trade transaction costs; and (iii) to make recommendations to enhance future work and technical cooperation focused on SPS and trade facilitation.
Members of the WTO have the sovereign right to restrict trade for the protection of human, plant and animal life or health against trade-related risks, provided that they follow the relevant principles of the WTO and, in particular, the Agreement on the Application of Sanitary and Phytosanitary Measures (SPS Agreement).[3] The main principles of the WTO framework are that SPS measures should be non-discriminatory, transparent, science-based and not more trade-restrictive than required to achieve the appropriate level of protection. SPS measures that meet these principles are considered as legitimate non-tariff measures.
The SPS Agreement requires WTO Members to accept measures of other Members that are equivalent in providing the appropriate level of protection. It also strongly encourages Members to harmonize their measures by adopting international standards, guidelines and recommendations developed by three international standard setting bodies (ISSBs), notably the Codex Alimentarius Commission (Codex), the International Plant Protection Convention (IPPC), and the World Organisation for Animal Health (OIE). However, countries are allowed to apply stricter requirements as long as these measures are based on scientific justification, which includes an assessment of risks. Countries may also apply fewer and less stringent standards, or opt not to apply international SPS standards, provided that this does not affect the rights of other countries under the multilateral trade rules.
Trade facilitation refers to the simplification and harmonization of required processes, procedures and information flows for border clearance. Trade facilitation is optimal if transaction costs for legitimate trade are as low as possible.[4] If SPS measures do not disrupt trade more than necessary to achieve the appropriate level of protection, then they are in harmony with trade facilitation. If the transaction costs of SPS measures to traders are higher than necessary to achieve the appropriate level of protection, they should be considered as trade-disruptive.
The SPS Agreement focuses mainly on principles to observe in protecting human, animal or plant life or health and less on practical implementation modalities. Nevertheless, the Agreement also provides guidance in several articles, and in particular in Annex C, on control, inspection and approval procedures, and on avoiding unnecessary trade disruption and transaction costs for traders. The ISSBs referenced in the SPS Agreement (i.e. Codex, IPPC and OIE) focus on the development of international standards for health protection, some of which provide guidance for good practice on topics referred to in Annex C and related to trade facilitation. However, a comprehensive compilation of good practice guidance for the implementation of SPS measures does not exist.
Most WTO Members are still in the process of incrementally applying WTO principles correctly. As a result, in many countries, SPS measures deliver less health protection than desirable and disrupt trade more than necessary. The reasons for non-compliance variously include lack of awareness, limited capacity in SPS management, weak governance, health protection measures that are unnecessarily costly, insufficient funding of SPS operational costs, and use of SPS measures for purposes other than health protection (e.g. protection of domestic production/industry or rent-seeking). Complexities and inefficiencies in SPS control processes may also cause extra administrative and internal business costs to traders.
The research in Lao PDR collected and analyzed information on how selected SPS measures are implemented in practice for specific product groups based on the provisions of the SPS Agreement and selected texts of Codex, IPPC and OIE. It explored the transaction costs of SPS measures for selected product groups, and considered how improving compliance with WTO principles can facilitate trade and contribute to better health protection. This report presents the findings of this country-level research. It is structured as follows. Section II outlines the methodology for the research in Lao PDR, which reflects the approach taken in all the countries included in the research in Southeast Asia. Section III presents the key findings, followed by an analysis in Section IV. The final section offers recommendations for improved implementation of SPS measures in Lao PDR.
[1] For more information, see: http://www.standardsfacility.org/en/TATradeFacilitation.htm
[2] WT/MIN(13)/36 , WT/L/911, WTO, Ministerial Conference, Ninth Session, Bali, 3-6 December 2013. Annexes to the Agreement are being prepared, with full acceptance planned by 31 July 2015. Much work will be required on implementation of the Trade Facilitation Agreement and on alignment with the SPS Agreement. The STDF research focuses on the general broad concept of trade facilitation, and not on the new Trade Facilitation Agreement.
[3] The text of the SPS Agreement is included in the Final Act of the Uruguay Round of Multilateral Trade Negotiations, signed in Marrakesh on 15 April 1994, and is available on the WTO website http://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/sps_e/spsagr_e.htm#fnt5
[4] From economic growth and poverty reduction points of view, unnecessary transaction costs on imports and exports are undesirable because they reduce purchasing power of consumers, waste public and private resources and undermine competiveness.
We are in negotiation to comply with all those international norms and regulations and who know, if one day you will be able to buy and consume authentic Lao Padek in US market.
SULILEC
2014-08-23 13:06:02 UTC
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Dear Pizone,
I don't know any Laotian male in general to whom born and raised from Laos does not know the concept of making Lao Padek. Do you? I think these guys are great in knowing their capability. Padek does have procedure and required methodological technique that is not easily made. If one doesn't do it right, well, eating rotten fish raw would be the result as Thanouxay wanted us to be aware why WTO is not approved of Lao Padek. And not to mention that it would have excessive magus and discoloration as a result of unsanitary. Some people develope allergic reaction to it and not to mention to withstand it's smell.

Scientifically speaking, Padek does seem to have some good in human body as medicine and help increase body immune system deficiency if properly intake in the right procedure and amount. I do fervently believe. I think this Padek, children should consume to develop good bacterial in stomach lining,for instance. The majority who eats it, including the one we too would find in Pizza as Angelvy (isn't it?) is basically Padek. I don't know anyone who die from eating stinky fish in pizza or eating Lao padek. No! Allergic reaction to it's smell and skin rashes as a result of body reaction intervention because of one's weak immune system, this...Yes!

Lastly, Pizone, how many times people on this board talk about Padek that the consumption of it does have some good. LPDR still has not yet made this traditional Laotian dish for sale. I think the reason is, the good and great guys to whom make the best Padek? LPDR had chased them away from Laos...their skills and capability is in someone's hand. I'll tell you what, I don't think LPDR will NEVER ever make the best Padek to sale even though it's a traditional Lao dish.

Sulilec
Post by pizone
if it's hard for the lpdr to make padek, why you guys just pack Hum (i mean rice husk or hull, not testicle) and to sell in the usa so we lao-folks can use it to make padek for ourselves and can export back to laos.
it's easy to make padek. it's the best if you have the new crop rice's husk (Hum) as the main ingredient.
pizone
Post by thanouxay
With regard to importation of Padek to US market, please read the following article to better understand how difficult to infiltrate a market and especially a very strict rules on Sanitary and photo sanitary Measures (SPS) to protect the life and health of the customers.
This document is one of four country studies conducted in Southeast Asia (Cambodia, Lao PDR, Philippines and Thailand) as part of STDF regional research on the implementation of SPS measures to facilitate safe trade.[1] Parallel regional research was carried out in Africa by the STDF, in collaboration with Trade Mark Southern Africa, and in Latin America by the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB). The preliminary findings of the regional research were presented at an STDF thematic session in Geneva on 26 March 2014.
The inspiration for the STDF research is the increased interest in developing countries and the trade and development community in trade facilitation, which is also evidenced by the adoption of a new WTO Agreement on Trade Facilitation in December 2013.[2] It is based on the common understanding that trade can be an important tool for economic growth and the reduction of poverty. The objectives of the STDF regional research are: (i) to draw attention to the synergies between the implementation of SPS measures and trade facilitation; (ii) to identify key needs, opportunities and good practices to improve the implementation of SPS measures in a way that ensures an appropriate level of health protection while minimizing trade transaction costs; and (iii) to make recommendations to enhance future work and technical cooperation focused on SPS and trade facilitation.
Members of the WTO have the sovereign right to restrict trade for the protection of human, plant and animal life or health against trade-related risks, provided that they follow the relevant principles of the WTO and, in particular, the Agreement on the Application of Sanitary and Phytosanitary Measures (SPS Agreement).[3] The main principles of the WTO framework are that SPS measures should be non-discriminatory, transparent, science-based and not more trade-restrictive than required to achieve the appropriate level of protection. SPS measures that meet these principles are considered as legitimate non-tariff measures.
The SPS Agreement requires WTO Members to accept measures of other Members that are equivalent in providing the appropriate level of protection. It also strongly encourages Members to harmonize their measures by adopting international standards, guidelines and recommendations developed by three international standard setting bodies (ISSBs), notably the Codex Alimentarius Commission (Codex), the International Plant Protection Convention (IPPC), and the World Organisation for Animal Health (OIE). However, countries are allowed to apply stricter requirements as long as these measures are based on scientific justification, which includes an assessment of risks. Countries may also apply fewer and less stringent standards, or opt not to apply international SPS standards, provided that this does not affect the rights of other countries under the multilateral trade rules.
Trade facilitation refers to the simplification and harmonization of required processes, procedures and information flows for border clearance. Trade facilitation is optimal if transaction costs for legitimate trade are as low as possible.[4] If SPS measures do not disrupt trade more than necessary to achieve the appropriate level of protection, then they are in harmony with trade facilitation. If the transaction costs of SPS measures to traders are higher than necessary to achieve the appropriate level of protection, they should be considered as trade-disruptive.
The SPS Agreement focuses mainly on principles to observe in protecting human, animal or plant life or health and less on practical implementation modalities. Nevertheless, the Agreement also provides guidance in several articles, and in particular in Annex C, on control, inspection and approval procedures, and on avoiding unnecessary trade disruption and transaction costs for traders. The ISSBs referenced in the SPS Agreement (i.e. Codex, IPPC and OIE) focus on the development of international standards for health protection, some of which provide guidance for good practice on topics referred to in Annex C and related to trade facilitation. However, a comprehensive compilation of good practice guidance for the implementation of SPS measures does not exist.
Most WTO Members are still in the process of incrementally applying WTO principles correctly. As a result, in many countries, SPS measures deliver less health protection than desirable and disrupt trade more than necessary. The reasons for non-compliance variously include lack of awareness, limited capacity in SPS management, weak governance, health protection measures that are unnecessarily costly, insufficient funding of SPS operational costs, and use of SPS measures for purposes other than health protection (e.g. protection of domestic production/industry or rent-seeking). Complexities and inefficiencies in SPS control processes may also cause extra administrative and internal business costs to traders.
The research in Lao PDR collected and analyzed information on how selected SPS measures are implemented in practice for specific product groups based on the provisions of the SPS Agreement and selected texts of Codex, IPPC and OIE. It explored the transaction costs of SPS measures for selected product groups, and considered how improving compliance with WTO principles can facilitate trade and contribute to better health protection. This report presents the findings of this country-level research. It is structured as follows. Section II outlines the methodology for the research in Lao PDR, which reflects the approach taken in all the countries included in the research in Southeast Asia. Section III presents the key findings, followed by an analysis in Section IV. The final section offers recommendations for improved implementation of SPS measures in Lao PDR.
[1] For more information, see: http://www.standardsfacility.org/en/TATradeFacilitation.htm
[2] WT/MIN(13)/36 , WT/L/911, WTO, Ministerial Conference, Ninth Session, Bali, 3-6 December 2013. Annexes to the Agreement are being prepared, with full acceptance planned by 31 July 2015. Much work will be required on implementation of the Trade Facilitation Agreement and on alignment with the SPS Agreement. The STDF research focuses on the general broad concept of trade facilitation, and not on the new Trade Facilitation Agreement.
[3] The text of the SPS Agreement is included in the Final Act of the Uruguay Round of Multilateral Trade Negotiations, signed in Marrakesh on 15 April 1994, and is available on the WTO website http://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/sps_e/spsagr_e.htm#fnt5
[4] From economic growth and poverty reduction points of view, unnecessary transaction costs on imports and exports are undesirable because they reduce purchasing power of consumers, waste public and private resources and undermine competiveness.
We are in negotiation to comply with all those international norms and regulations and who know, if one day you will be able to buy and consume authentic Lao Padek in US market.
ທ້າວໄຂ່ມືດ
2014-08-23 14:37:07 UTC
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People who think that Laos can only make Padek is ຄົນຕົກຂ່າວ. I've visited the Nikon factory. I've seen the silicon wafer factory. I have a friend with garment factory that employs workers from within Laos and neighboring countries. I've seen countless cement factories. A car factory, a motorcycle factory and other factories to assemble electric goods are in the planning...etc. Tourism is also booming in Laos. Two years ago Vientiane had over 60,000 new car registrations in the month of Dec. Just one month and that was 2 years ago. Many young Lao American kids are moving back to Laos in search of opportunities. Laos is moving fast. Too fast for my liking because I prefer to keep Laos as the hidden gem for the few who knows to appreciate it. WTO is there and it will be the key that will open the door for Laos. People who go to Laos and only have time to go sit and drink along the Mekong River and visit an old friend or two may think they've seen and know what's going on in Laos, but they are very wrong. These people think of Laos as only Padek. These people forget that they are kon Lao and should be proud of Laos. They are ຄົນຕົກຂ່າວ.
ທ້າວໄຂ່ມືດ
2014-08-23 14:48:09 UTC
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People who think that Laos can only make Padek is ຄົນຕົກຂ່າວ. I've visited the Nikon factory. I've seen the silicon wafer factory. I have a friend with garment factory that employs workers from within Laos and neighboring countries. I've seen countless cement factories. I had lunch with some friends and their friend brought guy that owned a pig farm. Early I n our conversation I thought he had maybe 100 pigs. Well, i found out that he produced his own feed and sells at least 500 pigs per week! A Lao guy from France owns his own airport and several planes. Another friend of mine who owns a car wash, a coffee shop, also has a consulting business where his team assists Japanese companies in construction deals in Laos. A car factory, a motorcycle factory and other factories to assemble electric goods are in the planning...etc. Tourism is also booming in Laos. Two years ago Vientiane had over 60,000 new car registrations in the month of Dec. Just one month and that was 2 years ago. There's so much much more going on in Laos. Many young Lao American kids are moving back to Laos in search of opportunities. Laos is moving fast. Too fast for my liking because I prefer to keep Laos as the hidden gem for the few who knows to appreciate it. WTO is there and it will be the key that will open the door for Laos. People who go to Laos and only have time to go sit and drink along the Mekong River and visit an old friend or two may think they've seen and know what's going on in Laos, but they are very wrong. These people think of Laos as only Padek. These people forget that they are kon Lao and should be proud of Laos. They are ຄົນຕົກຂ່າວ.
l***@laoclub.zzn.com
2014-08-24 16:30:09 UTC
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Tkm, you sure are a mouth piece for them Lao thug government . You make it sound like everything is on up and up. Why didn't you stay in Lao instead of Bangkok? Your life style goes well with them thug goverment, fine dining etc. You fail to see the average Lao people lives. You confine yourself with well connected families and friends of thugs. You fail to see how the poors are being evicted from their ancesteral land. You sure are blinded in this regard. Your friend owne a garment factory and employ people within Lao and neiboring courtry (vietcong), to me that fuckup. You are a Lao Ling (Lao monkey)
ທ້າວໄຂ່ມືດ
2014-08-24 18:55:23 UTC
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Whatever you say bro. Call me whatever you want. I call it like I see it. The world will go on. If you don't encourage Laonorks to go do businesses in Laos then you are making more room for other nationalities to go do business in Laos, such as the VIETNAMESE! So who's right and who's wrong? Time will tell.
Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
2014-08-25 03:10:51 UTC
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Post by ທ້າວໄຂ່ມືດ
Whatever you say bro. Call me whatever you want. I call it like I see it. The world will go on. If you don't encourage Laonorks to go do businesses in Laos then you are making more room for other nationalities to go do business in Laos, such as the VIETNAMESE! So who's right and who's wrong? Time will tell.
PEOPLE are still have a second thought on business INVESTMENT IN LPODR because LPDR still play unfair tricks to9 jkick the BUSINESS OWNER OUT of the country within 72 or 48 hours on BIG INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS CORPRATIONS like CHINESE and THAI. here is one of the case link: laonorks are just PERSONAL and who lacks the POWER TO TAKE TJHE lpdr TO INTERNATION court SO MOST LAO NORKS AS MYSELF WILL not dip my hands INTO THAT BUSINWSS just to learn i got a note of 48 or 72 hours to get out or JAIL and my business has been turned over to the LPDR immediately. i read aboutit on the INTERNET and had met somone who had this problem personally with LPDR so I for one will NOT jump in to do BUSINESS in LPDR at this time. IF anyone else had done their homeworks and see the GREAT PROFIT than go ahead jump now head in first while he/she see the opportunity before other people still have cold feet. THAT IS one of the greatest INVESTMENT and business strategy is to jump in while other people are NOT READY to9 do that type of business. the first one to jump in will get the most PROFIT as an example GOOGLE or MICROSOFT who jump into PC business while other people still were NOT aware of such thing. once other people aware of such a thing MICROSOFT and GOOGLE have already gained PROFITS in BILLION$ in their area of PC business. dong business in LPDR is a risk THAT i DO NOT WANT TO TOUCH YET but THAT DOES not mean OTHER PEOPLE HAVE the same knowledge OR HOMEWORK of risk as I SAW IT so they might see a shinny opportuniTY while i see it as a BIG RISK destiNY WHILE MY brother SAW IT AS moNEY on those BLACK and BURNT SOUR TEA.

https://lettersblogatory.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Thai-Lao.pdf
thanouxay
2014-08-26 09:09:17 UTC
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Currently, the infrastructure in Laos is lacking and the majority of workers in the country simply do not possess adequate skills. With this, the most recent reports on Purchasing Power Parity for per capita income are around $2,000. On a positive note, the location of Laos places it near beautiful rivers, which provides a valuable means of transportation but also needed water for the agricultural industry. In fact, of all industries for Laos trade, agriculture is the most important to include substantial r


Currently, the infrastructure in Laos is lacking and the majority of workers in the country simply do not possess adequate skills. With this, the most recent reports on Purchasing Power Parity for per capita income are around $2,000. On a positive note, the location of Laos places it near beautiful rivers, which provides a valuable means of transportation but also needed water for the agricultural industry. In fact, of all industries for Laos trade, agriculture is the most important to include substantial rice crops.

Even with agriculture, a large part of the population depends heavily on concessional loans specific to investment sources pertaining to economic development. For the GDP, it is estimated that over 20% accounts for foreign loans and grants. Ten years ago, foreign debt for Laos was near $2 billion and with the recent financial crisis felt around the world, this number has certainly risen.

Over the years, reforms were put into play, one that allowed prices to be set by the current market, which in turn stopped prices from being determined by the government. At that time, farmers could purchase land and sell any crops grown on the open market. In addition, firms were allowed to have more power in the decision making process but lost most of the advantages for pricing and all their subsidies. Additionally, the exchange rate was set by the government to be close to the real market levels, import barrier were replaced with tariffs, Laos trade barriers were eliminated, and firms in the private sectors now had the opportunity to access Laos imports.



Then, the Lao government decided to stimulate the economy further for international commerce by allowing a bridge across the Mekong River going into Thailand be built by Australia. The bridge was successful but getting a permit so traffic could go back and forth freely was significantly delayed. The Asian Financial Crisis hit the Laos trade market hard and this with mismanagement by the country's government caused serious inflation, as well as the kip being greatly depreciated.

While Laos, to include Laos Trade, Laos Exports, Laos Imports has stabilized somewhat in the past two years, the agricultural industry has not recovered so well. Therefore, to make it possible for farmers to keep growing crops, the financial economy continues to depend on foreign money. Because of this, the public sector still has a very active and dominant role in Laos trade.

While agriculture is the primary source of work and income, approximately 42%, two other sectors responsible for Laos exports and Laos imports include industry around 33% and services close to 27%. Of the three, most workers are still involved with agriculture in one form or another. However, when looking at revenue for Laos, which runs around $474 million versus the country's expenditures at $646 million, it is easy to see why the country depends so much on outside


For the industry sector, this includes primarily gypsum mining, tin, electric power, timber, processing of agricultural products, garments, and construction. Then for agriculture, the primary crops grown include all types of vegetables, sugar cane, sweet potatoes, maize, tobacco, coffee, tea, cotton, rice, peanuts, poultry, pigs, cattle, and domestic buffalo.

The most recent reports for Laos exports show $970 million, which includes electricity, garments, coffee, wood products, gold, tin, and copper mostly. For Laos exports, current partners include Vietnam, Thailand, France, Belgium, and Germany. As far as Laos imports, numbers run approximately $1.4 billion to include vehicles, fuel, machinery, and equipment. For Laos imports, the primary partners include Thailand, Vietnam, Japan, Singapore, Hong Kong, and the People's Republic of China.
HT
2014-08-26 13:34:02 UTC
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SBD all,
In 197o's in Banelao forum, veteran early SCL members would remember, I coined the concept of 'Laos land link' to counter the negative 'land locked' complex. In the late 1980's I illustrated the risk of land link becoming a mash land; where progress and development be bogged down in mud and uncertainty. As we could see what is now happening, our neighbours are bypassing Laos with cargo ships coming from China to Chiang rai, the new highway from Namtha through to Thailand. The new proposed rail from China link Thailand to Singapore. The east-west corridor linking Vietnam to Thailand. Laos will be some transit royalty, if Laos can not real value adding to goods transiting Laos, Laos landlink will be a highway bridge over Laos mash land. Thailand is the real land hub to ASEAN economy. Their 5 train tracks upgrade to Nogkhai is near operaional, plus warehouses are all planned.

The way Laos is going living beyond it's means, borrowing and mortgaging Laos to try to balance its book, combined with global financial corrections they have impacted on Lao economy this year 2014. In the cities we used to feel the vibes of these stimulus borrowed capital being injecting into projects. Now we feel Laos tightening its belt, with most Gov. projects suspended, salary deferred, budget cuts, a run away import figures (partly due to increased in projects asset procurement)

There will be more tightening before any light at the end of the economic tunnel will be seen. NT2 revenue next year will help a little but ASEAN integration in 2015 will be a big challenge due to increase competition.

There are 2 elements that might need correction now how CPI inflation and unemployment are calculated. CPI is not representative of fixed representative basket with most items price being controlled and not floated to market price; we all know how much petrol, rice, electricity have gone up. How many people are out of work. Maybe we should look at this talked about "gross national happiness GNH" it's not a psychological measurement but economic parameters:
Economic Wellness: Indicated via direct survey and statistical measurement of economic metrics such as consumer debt, average income to consumer price index ratio and income distribution
Environmental Wellness: Indicated via direct survey and statistical measurement of environmental metrics such as pollution, noise and traffic
Physical Wellness: Indicated via statistical measurement of physical health metrics such as severe illnesses
Mental Wellness: Indicated via direct survey and statistical measurement of mental health metrics such as usage of antidepressants and rise or decline of psychotherapy patients
Workplace Wellness: Indicated via direct survey and statistical measurement of labor metrics such as jobless claims, job change, workplace complaints and lawsuits
Social Wellness: Indicated via direct survey and statistical measurement of social metrics such as discrimination, safety, divorce rates, complaints of domestic conflicts and family lawsuits, public lawsuits, crime rates
Political Wellness: Indicated via direct survey and statistical measurement of political metrics such as the quality of local democracy, individual freedom, and foreign conflicts.
thanouxay
2014-08-26 15:21:41 UTC
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I agree with your points here but it is nevertheless premature to judge... We may need more time to see all the impact of ASEAN Economic Community which is to be operational only by 31 December 2015. But what we noticed is that Japanese big firm are coming such as Toyota, Nikkon, among others are coming to Laos and are establishing their production in Savannakahet let not talk about Boeing Industry also put a manufacture to produce some parts of its planes also in Savannakhet.
But from what I can assessed now is that the Lao people are much better off than few years ago and continue to be more and more dynamic in entrepreneurship and trading. That a good sign.
Sok dee
HT
2014-08-27 00:41:53 UTC
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SBD TX et all
2013 reports: Industrial share of GDP of 34.65%, Service: 35.81%, I was surprised by the Agriculture sector going backwards 27.98% (-5.2%) when Laos Laos is predominantly agriculture (85.4% of employment). Looking at the positive side of uplift of service industry (Tourism) over the industrial figure, it might encourage LPDR to invest more in upgrading the infrastructure to support the good perming tourism industry eg.roads to Vang Vieng, the cement factories that continue to destroy yearly the roads with heavy vehicles should contribute more if not all the costs. Tender to private sector to development new tourist sites, in the cities Laos has so many untapped historical sites undeveloped, and tourists wonder why there is little to do in Laos than waiting for dust to go out boozing & what not! Adjustment of micro elements at the local level, at no more cost to the government (shift costs (encouraged) to private sector would impact nationally. While tourism performance is privately driven (entrepreneurial, scalable and responsive), industrial is high capital and government policies driven ie. tax incentive, concession, infrastructure, national competition, geo political driven. With LPDR short of cash, this will impact on attracting investors to help to support the Industrial figure. It might be worth to further look into why agriculture is going negative; could it be some land being converted into easy short term industrial production of rubber. Could it be the demographic shift to cities, into service industry. How can Lao food security be improved? land concession for food production at the same scale as industry? an arc 100kms north of VTE along Namgneum adequately serviced has great potential to improve Laos food security. BUT it must be STRICKLY enforced otherwise it might fall into the hangs of well connected people and land speculation. eg. production within 1 year, targets assessed 6 monthly, 50% equipment/setup period etc. If it is too hard for LPDR, such project management can be divide up and tender out, or officially create an avenue to accept proposal for such projects. It might help absorb unskilled farm people who have moved to the big cities, lowering the unemployment figure, improve food security, maybe boost export with well niched green food products.

CPI and unemployment figures method of accounting impact on fundamentals of the economy and budgets. Boasting on false wrong figures amounts to lying to oneself. I have been to the factories they are small in scale and products range, but it is a good start. The players are testing the water with Laos and edging the uncertainties with ASEAN integration. Why past special economic zones have not worked? is there any real difference in the models of new zones or just shifting location? http://www.sncsez.gov.la/index.php/en/ these zones are real estate speculation than anything else, with land outside much cheaper and red tape outside less, dealing local government rather than central government. People are little tired of glossy concept video presentation and brochures; how many big projects in VTE have been completed in the last 5 years? most remain are a sale office, and glossy banners, or untenanted. Sometimes I wonder if market purchase capacity, amenities and diversity ever come into the planning?

I would welcome your advice on how to bring these 2 projects into fruition: development cities historical sites, VTE city fringe food production.

On "Political Wellness" the word 'democracy' might trigger some resistance in people, please note it has little to do with politics but adhering to internal political process correctness as mandated in the Lao constitution and obligations to various signed treaties.
Post by thanouxay
I agree with your points here but it is nevertheless premature to judge... We may need more time to see all the impact of ASEAN Economic Community which is to be operational only by 31 December 2015. But what we noticed is that Japanese big firm are coming such as Toyota, Nikkon, among others are coming to Laos and are establishing their production in Savannakahet let not talk about Boeing Industry also put a manufacture to produce some parts of its planes also in Savannakhet.
But from what I can assessed now is that the Lao people are much better off than few years ago and continue to be more and more dynamic in entrepreneurship and trading. That a good sign.
Sok dee
Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
2014-08-26 18:06:01 UTC
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Post by HT
SBD all,
In 197o's in Banelao forum, veteran early SCL members would remember, I coined the concept of 'Laos land link' to counter the negative 'land locked' complex. In the late 1980's I illustrated the risk of land link becoming a mash land; where progress and development be bogged down in mud and uncertainty. As we could see what is now happening, our neighbours are bypassing Laos with cargo ships coming from China to Chiang rai, the new highway from Namtha through to Thailand. The new proposed rail from China link Thailand to Singapore. The east-west corridor linking Vietnam to Thailand. Laos will be some transit royalty, if Laos can not real value adding to goods transiting Laos, Laos landlink will be a highway bridge over Laos mash land. Thailand is the real land hub to ASEAN economy. Their 5 train tracks upgrade to Nogkhai is near operaional, plus warehouses are all planned.
The way Laos is going living beyond it's means, borrowing and mortgaging Laos to try to balance its book, combined with global financial corrections they have impacted on Lao economy this year 2014. In the cities we used to feel the vibes of these stimulus borrowed capital being injecting into projects. Now we feel Laos tightening its belt, with most Gov. projects suspended, salary deferred, budget cuts, a run away import figures (partly due to increased in projects asset procurement)
There will be more tightening before any light at the end of the economic tunnel will be seen. NT2 revenue next year will help a little but ASEAN integration in 2015 will be a big challenge due to increase competition.
Economic Wellness: Indicated via direct survey and statistical measurement of economic metrics such as consumer debt, average income to consumer price index ratio and income distribution
Environmental Wellness: Indicated via direct survey and statistical measurement of environmental metrics such as pollution, noise and traffic
Physical Wellness: Indicated via statistical measurement of physical health metrics such as severe illnesses
Mental Wellness: Indicated via direct survey and statistical measurement of mental health metrics such as usage of antidepressants and rise or decline of psychotherapy patients
Workplace Wellness: Indicated via direct survey and statistical measurement of labor metrics such as jobless claims, job change, workplace complaints and lawsuits
Social Wellness: Indicated via direct survey and statistical measurement of social metrics such as discrimination, safety, divorce rates, complaints of domestic conflicts and family lawsuits, public lawsuits, crime rates
Political Wellness: Indicated via direct survey and statistical measurement of political metrics such as the quality of local democracy, individual freedom, and foreign conflicts.
Thailand WILL TAKE all OF THE ADVANTAGES THAT lpdr SUPPOSE TO GET BUT with THE LINK TO china ETC... but WITH NEW links agreed by the new JUNTA/PM already agreed and the skills, foundations and and existing developed infrastructures THAILAND will capture those trades and WIN at the end even though THAILAND came to the LINKS much later than LPDR.
pizone
2014-08-26 23:40:27 UTC
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Super expensive pineapple, mango, grape, melon (cantaloupe)...

This could be a good news and examples for Lao farmers to lern and find way to create quality Lao fruits and sell at these prices
http://www.sentangsedtee.com/news_detail.php?rich_id=1244&section=1

pizone
Post by Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
Post by HT
SBD all,
In 197o's in Banelao forum, veteran early SCL members would remember, I coined the concept of 'Laos land link' to counter the negative 'land locked' complex. In the late 1980's I illustrated the risk of land link becoming a mash land; where progress and development be bogged down in mud and uncertainty. As we could see what is now happening, our neighbours are bypassing Laos with cargo ships coming from China to Chiang rai, the new highway from Namtha through to Thailand. The new proposed rail from China link Thailand to Singapore. The east-west corridor linking Vietnam to Thailand. Laos will be some transit royalty, if Laos can not real value adding to goods transiting Laos, Laos landlink will be a highway bridge over Laos mash land. Thailand is the real land hub to ASEAN economy. Their 5 train tracks upgrade to Nogkhai is near operaional, plus warehouses are all planned.
The way Laos is going living beyond it's means, borrowing and mortgaging Laos to try to balance its book, combined with global financial corrections they have impacted on Lao economy this year 2014. In the cities we used to feel the vibes of these stimulus borrowed capital being injecting into projects. Now we feel Laos tightening its belt, with most Gov. projects suspended, salary deferred, budget cuts, a run away import figures (partly due to increased in projects asset procurement)
There will be more tightening before any light at the end of the economic tunnel will be seen. NT2 revenue next year will help a little but ASEAN integration in 2015 will be a big challenge due to increase competition.
Economic Wellness: Indicated via direct survey and statistical measurement of economic metrics such as consumer debt, average income to consumer price index ratio and income distribution
Environmental Wellness: Indicated via direct survey and statistical measurement of environmental metrics such as pollution, noise and traffic
Physical Wellness: Indicated via statistical measurement of physical health metrics such as severe illnesses
Mental Wellness: Indicated via direct survey and statistical measurement of mental health metrics such as usage of antidepressants and rise or decline of psychotherapy patients
Workplace Wellness: Indicated via direct survey and statistical measurement of labor metrics such as jobless claims, job change, workplace complaints and lawsuits
Social Wellness: Indicated via direct survey and statistical measurement of social metrics such as discrimination, safety, divorce rates, complaints of domestic conflicts and family lawsuits, public lawsuits, crime rates
Political Wellness: Indicated via direct survey and statistical measurement of political metrics such as the quality of local democracy, individual freedom, and foreign conflicts.
Thailand WILL TAKE all OF THE ADVANTAGES THAT lpdr SUPPOSE TO GET BUT with THE LINK TO china ETC... but WITH NEW links agreed by the new JUNTA/PM already agreed and the skills, foundations and and existing developed infrastructures THAILAND will capture those trades and WIN at the end even though THAILAND came to the LINKS much later than LPDR.
Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
2014-08-27 19:15:46 UTC
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Pizone, you got a good example of FRUITS. NOW A DAY the US and other developed countries focus more on GREEN and natural foods instead of MEAT and other heavily processed items which mean FRUIT is the way to go for LPDR which got one of the best location/land to grow FRUITS. in addition FRUITS involve less manufacturing process which by pass some of the sanitation requirements that the US FDA is so strict about it. just GROW FRUITS and use natural fertilizers instead of chemicals from the factory will gain LPDR a GREEN A STATUS and lessen the restrictions for LPDR to EXPORT those FRUITS.
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Super expensive pineapple, mango, grape, melon (cantaloupe)...
This could be a good news and examples for Lao farmers to lern and find way to create quality Lao fruits and sell at these prices
http://www.sentangsedtee.com/news_detail.php?rich_id=1244&section=1
pizone
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SBD all,
In 197o's in Banelao forum, veteran early SCL members would remember, I coined the concept of 'Laos land link' to counter the negative 'land locked' complex. In the late 1980's I illustrated the risk of land link becoming a mash land; where progress and development be bogged down in mud and uncertainty. As we could see what is now happening, our neighbours are bypassing Laos with cargo ships coming from China to Chiang rai, the new highway from Namtha through to Thailand. The new proposed rail from China link Thailand to Singapore. The east-west corridor linking Vietnam to Thailand. Laos will be some transit royalty, if Laos can not real value adding to goods transiting Laos, Laos landlink will be a highway bridge over Laos mash land. Thailand is the real land hub to ASEAN economy. Their 5 train tracks upgrade to Nogkhai is near operaional, plus warehouses are all planned.
The way Laos is going living beyond it's means, borrowing and mortgaging Laos to try to balance its book, combined with global financial corrections they have impacted on Lao economy this year 2014. In the cities we used to feel the vibes of these stimulus borrowed capital being injecting into projects. Now we feel Laos tightening its belt, with most Gov. projects suspended, salary deferred, budget cuts, a run away import figures (partly due to increased in projects asset procurement)
There will be more tightening before any light at the end of the economic tunnel will be seen. NT2 revenue next year will help a little but ASEAN integration in 2015 will be a big challenge due to increase competition.
Economic Wellness: Indicated via direct survey and statistical measurement of economic metrics such as consumer debt, average income to consumer price index ratio and income distribution
Environmental Wellness: Indicated via direct survey and statistical measurement of environmental metrics such as pollution, noise and traffic
Physical Wellness: Indicated via statistical measurement of physical health metrics such as severe illnesses
Mental Wellness: Indicated via direct survey and statistical measurement of mental health metrics such as usage of antidepressants and rise or decline of psychotherapy patients
Workplace Wellness: Indicated via direct survey and statistical measurement of labor metrics such as jobless claims, job change, workplace complaints and lawsuits
Social Wellness: Indicated via direct survey and statistical measurement of social metrics such as discrimination, safety, divorce rates, complaints of domestic conflicts and family lawsuits, public lawsuits, crime rates
Political Wellness: Indicated via direct survey and statistical measurement of political metrics such as the quality of local democracy, individual freedom, and foreign conflicts.
Thailand WILL TAKE all OF THE ADVANTAGES THAT lpdr SUPPOSE TO GET BUT with THE LINK TO china ETC... but WITH NEW links agreed by the new JUNTA/PM already agreed and the skills, foundations and and existing developed infrastructures THAILAND will capture those trades and WIN at the end even though THAILAND came to the LINKS much later than LPDR.
SULILEC
2014-08-27 12:03:57 UTC
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***@laoclub.zzn.com,
Who give a flying "F" to mouth piece of LPDR anyway. We are off different dimension. What applied to Laos does not happen in reality in USA, where we live. But surely, deep in the mind, one/we would think about our mother's homeland and only hope to see her able to get up and get better in today's world. If WTO helps Laos, great! Did it help though? On the other hands, the majority of the time when I get to read Laos News, I end up reading/hearing more and more about producing hydro-power dams and I wonder what/how LPDR is going to do with that money if the people of Laos (the real people of Laos) are not going to be there for you. Surely, I don't want to see my mother's homeland looking like Japan, a country with little land either.

Having say all that, I heard that one of the main ingredients of making ປາແດກ Padak is adding ເປືອກໝາກນັດ pineapple. Some said that this fruit adds flavor and make the dish looks it's color. Of course, I don't agree with Pizone that (what did he saິິy? Hum? It took me a while to get his joke/saying) rice husk ຮຳ would only be a main ingredient. Pizone is ຄົນລາວດຶກດຳບັນແທ້ໆ ຊວນພາອ່ານພາສາໄທອີກ ໂອຍຈັ່ງແມ່ນນໍ ພາສາລາວອ່ານຍັງບໍ່ແລ້ວບໍ່ເກັ່ງ ຈະໃຫ້ອ່ານພາສາໄທຍໄດ້ແນວໃດ? Plus, Pizone did not proof a thing about his saying that why rice husk is that important. I only have seem rice husk get fed to pigs not in Padek.

One of these days, perhaps and would it be great if we, who are on this board make a dish of Padak and share with everyone who eat this dish. "ປາແດກເນີ! ບໍ່ແມ່ນປາລ້າ...ກິນກະໄດ້ຂ້າຍກະດີ..." ໃຫ້ຄົນເຂົາຊ່າເບິ່ງແດ່ດູວ່າລາວຂ້າຍປາແດກຈົນຮັ່ງມີທົ່ວປະເທດ...ຢ່າໃຫ້ໄດ້ແຕ່ຝັນ ໄດ້ແຕ່ຝັນຫຼາຍ.
pizone
2014-08-27 16:32:08 UTC
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Post by SULILEC
Having say all that, I heard that one of the main ingredients of making ປາແດກ Padak is adding ເປືອກໝາກນັດ pineapple. Some said that this fruit adds flavor and make the dish looks it's color. Of course, I don't agree with Pizone that (what did he saິິy? Hum? It took me a while to get his joke/saying) rice husk ຮຳ would only be a main ingredient.
people, including you sulilec, don't know "Hum" ຮຳ is the main ingredient to make ປາແດກ are either so stupid or so "living in the jar". Some people especially "Thao-Tai" like to put some parts of ໝາກນັດ in ປາແດກ to get its flavor. If they put-in a lot, that could change the taste to more sour and not just salty....
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Pizone is ຄົນລາວດຶກດຳບັນແທ້ໆ ຊວນພາອ່ານພາສາໄທອີກ ໂອຍຈັ່ງແມ່ນນໍ ພາສາລາວອ່ານຍັງບໍ່ແລ້ວບໍ່ເກັ່ງ ຈະໃຫ້ອ່ານພາສາໄທຍໄດ້ແນວໃດ?
you can't read Thai, it's ok. there're many people here can read Thai. being able to read many languages including Thai is good (not bad like you think). the article is for anyone who can read it, not just for you.
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Plus, Pizone did not proof a thing about his saying that why rice husk is that important.
I only have seem rice husk get fed to pigs not in Padek.

Talking about Hum, did you ever hear the joke people like to say at the ໂຮງສີເຂົ້າ "ເຂົ້າເອົາຮຳເຂົ້າພ້ອມ asking to take "Hum" back together with their rice. When ໄທເມືອງຫລວງ need "Hum" back too, and since they have sweet-soft-accent, what they say sounds very much like "ສີ້ເຂົ້າເອົາຫຳເຂົ້າຜ້ອມ" hahahahh

yeah, (Hum) ຮຳ is not just used for feeding pigs, it's also used as the main ingredient to make Lao Padek. If you don't believe me ask your mom. if she's Lao and born in Laos, she can prove to you that what i said is v
SULILEC
2014-08-28 11:48:50 UTC
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ປີຊ້ວນເຮີຍ,

ຈັ່ງແມ່ນດຶກດຳບັນແທ້ນໍ Classic jokes ຂອງເຈົ້ານັ້ນ ເວົ້າບໍ່ສະໝັກນຳລາຍນຳດອກ... I bet you hang around with old Lao folks too much that you think Lao Padek must have ຮຳ as the only main ingredient. Even have over look my point of view that there is a way that Lao people had made Padek without ຮຳ. ຖ້າຮຳບໍ່ມີ ຫຼຶ ລາຄາແພງເກີນໄປທີ່ຊື້ບໍ່ໄດ້ ດັ່ງພວກເຮົາຄົນລາວທີ່ຢູ່ອະເມຣິການັ້ນ ເຈົ້າວ່າກະເຈົ້າໃສ່ຫຍັງ? ເຂົ້າໃຈວ່າ Main ingredient ນັ້ນໝາຍຄວາມວ່າສິ່ງທີ່ຂາດບໍ່ໄດ້ໃດ ບໍ່ແມ່ນວ່າຄວນໃສ່. ຮຳນັ້ນຄວນໃສ່ປາແດກກໍ່ຈິງ ແຕ່ບໍ່ແມ່ນ main ingredient. Your padek ingredient sounds rather old...it could be that you are having ສີເຈົ້າເອົາຮຮຮຫຳເຂົ້າພ້ອມນຳເຖົ້າໂຮງສີ having a flink with old fart who likes to tell dirty jokes to young people. ລະຫວັງເນີ ຢູ່ນຳຄົນແກ່ຄົນເຖົ້າຫຼາຍ ຈັກນ້ອຍກະເປັນຄົນແກ່ຄົນເຖົ້າຕາມໆກັນດອກ...ອອກໄປກິນອາຫານນອກບ້ານນຳຄົນໜຸ່ມຄົນສາວແດ່ເນີ ເປັນຫ່ວງເຈົ້າແທ້ໃດ ຢ້ານເປັນໂລກຕິດແປດຄົນເຖົ້າຊັ້ນນາ.
yeah, (Hum) ຮຳ is not just used for feeding pigs, it's also used as the main ingredient to make Lao Padek. If you don't believe me ask your mom. if she's Lao and born in Laos, she can prove to you that what i said is very true.
Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
2014-08-28 12:24:18 UTC
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ປີຊ້ວນເຮີຍ,
ຈັ່ງແມ່ນດຶກດຳບັນແທ້ນໍ Classic jokes ຂອງເຈົ້ານັ້ນ ເວົ້າບໍ່ສະໝັກນຳລາຍນຳດອກ... I bet you hang around with old Lao folks too much that you think Lao Padek must have ຮຳ as the only main ingredient. Even have over look my point of view that there is a way that Lao people had made Padek without ຮຳ. ຖ້າຮຳບໍ່ມີ ຫຼຶ ລາຄາແພງເກີນໄປທີ່ຊື້ບໍ່ໄດ້ ດັ່ງພວກເຮົາຄົນລາວທີ່ຢູ່ອະເມຣິການັ້ນ ເຈົ້າວ່າກະເຈົ້າໃສ່ຫຍັງ? ເຂົ້າໃຈວ່າ Main ingredient ນັ້ນໝາຍຄວາມວ່າສິ່ງທີ່ຂາດບໍ່ໄດ້ໃດ ບໍ່ແມ່ນວ່າຄວນໃສ່. ຮຳນັ້ນຄວນໃສ່ປາແດກກໍ່ຈິງ ແຕ່ບໍ່ແມ່ນ main ingredient. Your padek ingredient sounds rather old...it could be that you are having ສີເຈົ້າເອົາຮຮຮຫຳເຂົ້າພ້ອມນຳເຖົ້າໂຮງສີ having a flink with old fart who likes to tell dirty jokes to young people. ລະຫວັງເນີ ຢູ່ນຳຄົນແກ່ຄົນເຖົ້າຫຼາຍ ຈັກນ້ອຍກະເປັນຄົນແກ່ຄົນເຖົ້າຕາມໆກັນດອກ...ອອກໄປກິນອາຫານນອກບ້ານນຳຄົນໜຸ່ມຄົນສາວແດ່ເນີ ເປັນຫ່ວງເຈົ້າແທ້ໃດ ຢ້ານເປັນໂລກຕິດແປດຄົນເຖົ້າຊັ້ນນາ.
yeah, (Hum) ຮຳ is not just used for feeding pigs, it's also used as the main ingredient to make Lao Padek. If you don't believe me ask your mom. if she's Lao and born in Laos, she can prove to you that what i said is very true.
pizone
I do NOT even KNOW what ຮຳ is let ALONE IT NEEDS to do with PADECK.When we made our last PADECK in 1975 i saw my parents ONLY USE SALT (lots of it) and nicely clean fishes a BIG JAR and some WET ASH to cover the JAR complete SEALED. WITHOUT THE WET ASH THE jar WILL NOT do the job because it let out air and by chance SMALL agents too. in the USA hear WALMART GOT pickle JARS with rubber tight SEALs so I got one less thing to worry. IN 1979 IN AROUND NAKANG we ate PADECK by just grab a little piece of SWEET RICE round it into alittle ball and dip it into the PADECK and throw it deep into the outh. GEEZ! IT WAS TASTING SO GOOD I CAN STILL HUNGRY FOR IT NOW AFTER 35 YEARS.Those PADECK at dozen of oriental market around st.paul here sell them BUT they are tasting NOTHING BUT PURE SALT. I HAD my wife bought one too many a time and NOW SHE HATES ME EVERY TIME I ASK HER TO BUY ANOTHER TESTING JAR OF padeck FROM THOSE STORES. IF I CAN ORDER it ONLINE I´LL DO IT. ah FORGET IT those PADECK can NOT serve melike tghose SWEET BREAD STICKs AND BONELESS buffalo wings. ICAN JUST SIT HERE and clicjk the mouse for a few 5 minutes I SHOULD GOT PLENTY OF SWEET BREADS and HOT BONELESS ELEPHAN
pizone
2014-08-28 21:00:53 UTC
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Skunk,

what you described that you made "fish with salt" only is called "Pa-Khiem" or salty-fish. It's not Lao Padek. Many people from different countries make it differently. If you put lots of pineapple it become Pa-Som or Som-Pa, notPadek.

Lao Padek, the pitical and real original one has to have Hum. That's why Padek-Lao is different and unique. What we eat here in the US is the modified one, made in Thailand mostly (some made in the Philippines and Vietnam), they're like sulilec don't know anything about how to make Lao Padek. The Thai might know, but they like to do their way...

Yes, Hum is the main ingredient to make Lao Padek and I didn't say it's the only one main ingredient.

if i don't have anything else to do, i'll might make Lao-Padek, made in the USA for and sell with highest price (at $1,000/jar) like the Japanese produce their most expesive fruits seen in the article.

pizone
Post by SULILEC
ປີຊ້ວນເຮີຍ,
ຈັ່ງແມ່ນດຶກດຳບັນແທ້ນໍ Classic jokes ຂອງເຈົ້ານັ້ນ ເວົ້າບໍ່ສະໝັກນຳລາຍນຳດອກ... I bet you hang around with old Lao folks too much that you think Lao Padek must have ຮຳ as the only main ingredient. Even have over look my point of view that there is a way that Lao people had made Padek without ຮຳ. ຖ້າຮຳບໍ່ມີ ຫຼຶ ລາຄາແພງເກີນໄປທີ່ຊື້ບໍ່ໄດ້ ດັ່ງພວກເຮົາຄົນລາວທີ່ຢູ່ອະເມຣິການັ້ນ ເຈົ້າວ່າກະເຈົ້າໃສ່ຫຍັງ? ເຂົ້າໃຈວ່າ Main ingredient ນັ້ນໝາຍຄວາມວ່າສິ່ງທີ່ຂາດບໍ່ໄດ້ໃດ ບໍ່ແມ່ນວ່າຄວນໃສ່. ຮຳນັ້ນຄວນໃສ່ປາແດກກໍ່ຈິງ ແຕ່ບໍ່ແມ່ນ main ingredient. Your padek ingredient sounds rather old...it could be that you are having ສີເຈົ້າເອົາຮຮຮຫຳເຂົ້າພ້ອມນຳເຖົ້າໂຮງສີ having a flink with old fart who likes to tell dirty jokes to young people. ລະຫວັງເນີ ຢູ່ນຳຄົນແກ່ຄົນເຖົ້າຫຼາຍ ຈັກນ້ອຍກະເປັນຄົນແກ່ຄົນເຖົ້າຕາມໆກັນດອກ...ອອກໄປກິນອາຫານນອກບ້ານນຳຄົນໜຸ່ມຄົນສາວແດ່ເນີ ເປັນຫ່ວງເຈົ້າແທ້ໃດ ຢ້ານເປັນໂລກຕິດແປດຄົນເຖົ້າຊັ້ນນາ.
yeah, (Hum) ຮຳ is not just used for feeding pigs, it's also used as the main ingredient to make Lao Padek. If you don't believe me ask your mom. if she's Lao and born in Laos, she can prove to you that what i said is very true.
pizone
I do NOT even KNOW what ຮຳ is let ALONE IT NEEDS to do with PADECK.When we made our last PADECK in 1975 i saw my parents ONLY USE SALT (lots of it) and nicely clean fishes a BIG JAR and some WET ASH to cover the JAR complete SEALED. WITHOUT THE WET ASH THE jar WILL NOT do the job because it let out air and by chance SMALL agents too. in the USA hear WALMART GOT pickle JARS with rubber tight SEALs so I got one less thing to worry. IN 1979 IN AROUND NAKANG we ate PADECK by just grab a little piece of SWEET RICE round it into alittle ball and dip it into the PADECK and throw it deep into the outh. GEEZ! IT WAS TASTING SO GOOD I CAN STILL HUNGRY FOR IT NOW AFTER 35 YEARS.Those PADECK at dozen of oriental market around st.paul here sell them BUT they are tasting NOTHING BUT PURE SALT. I HAD my wife bought one too many a time and NOW SHE HATES ME EVERY TIME I ASK HER TO BUY ANOTHER TESTING JAR OF padeck FROM THOSE STORES. IF I CAN ORDER it ONLINE I´LL DO IT. ah FORGET IT those PADECK can NOT serve melike tghose SWEET BREAD STICKs AND BONELESS buffalo wings. ICAN JUST SIT HERE and clicjk the mouse for a few 5 minutes I SHOULD GOT PLENTY OF SWEET BREADS and HOT BONELESS ELEPHANT WINGS.55555.oops! it i
SULILEC
2014-08-30 11:55:29 UTC
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Good morning, Pizone!
ອາກາດດີຫຼາຍ ຢາກເຫັນຫິມະແລ້ວ ອາກາດໝາວມານີ້ ມີຫິມະຕົກ ສິ່ງແວດລອ້ມຈະຂາວງາມໄປທົ່ວ ເຈົ້າຈະເອົາສິ່ງ
ແວດລ້ອມງາມໆແນວນີ້ ຈະໄປເຮັດປາແດກສັ້ນບໍ?

Why did you say that Lao Padek must have rice husk? Are you implying that Padek is as old as ໂຮງສີເຂົ້າ rice machinery. I don't think this is true. Padek is older than that...

ປີຊ້ວນເຮີຍ, ເຈົ້າໄດ້ໄຊ້ເປືອກໝາກນັດໃສ່ສົມປາຊັ້ນບໍຈິ່ງຮູ້ວ່າຈະເປັນສົມປາ? ເຈົ້າເຄີຍເຮັດສົມປາຢູ່ບໍ?
ເຈົ້າເຄີຍພົບລຸງສຳມະນາບໍ? ພວກນີ້ນັ້ນພາກັນເຮັດສົມປາ ປາແດກ ເກັ່ງໃດ... ເຈົ້າຮູ້ພວກນີ້ ກໍ່ຈະຮູ້ວ່າສົມປານັ້ນບໍ່ຕ້ອງການໃສ່ໝາກນັດ ຫຼຶ ເຄື່ອງສົມເລີຍ. ປາແດກກະບໍ່ຕ້ອງການຮຳ ເຖິງແມ່ນວ່າລາວປາແດກ
ນັ້ນຄວນຈະໃສ່ຮຳ.

OK, if you are going to make padak this winter, do let know your ingredient and method. I'll be waiting to hear. If so stingy of your recipe than just post and let know if you did make it into Lao Padak for good. Oh, also let know where in the world you are going to get rice husk. Since WTO has not even approved of rice husk sold to USA market. Proof it if you have seem Rice Husk anywhere in US store.


Sulilec
Post by pizone
Lao Padek, the pitical and real original one has to have Hum. That's why Padek-Lao is different and unique. What we eat here in the US is the modified one, made in Thailand mostly (some made in the Philippines and Vietnam), they're like sulilec don't know anything about how to make Lao Padek. The Thai might know, but they like to do their way...
Yes, Hum is the main ingredient to make Lao Padek and I didn't say it's the only one main ingredient.
if i don't have anything else to do, i'll might make Lao-Padek, made in the USA for and sell with highest price (at $1,000/jar) like the Japanese produce their most expesive fruits seen in the article.
pizone
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Post by SULILEC
ປີຊ້ວນເຮີຍ,
ຈັ່ງແມ່ນດຶກດຳບັນແທ້ນໍ Classic jokes ຂອງເຈົ້ານັ້ນ ເວົ້າບໍ່ສະໝັກນຳລາຍນຳດອກ... I bet you hang around with old Lao folks too much that you think Lao Padek must have ຮຳ as the only main ingredient. Even have over look my point of view that there is a way that Lao people had made Padek without ຮຳ. ຖ້າຮຳບໍ່ມີ ຫຼຶ ລາຄາແພງເກີນໄປທີ່ຊື້ບໍ່ໄດ້ ດັ່ງພວກເຮົາຄົນລາວທີ່ຢູ່ອະເມຣິການັ້ນ ເຈົ້າວ່າກະເຈົ້າໃສ່ຫຍັງ? ເຂົ້າໃຈວ່າ Main ingredient ນັ້ນໝາຍຄວາມວ່າສິ່ງທີ່ຂາດບໍ່ໄດ້ໃດ ບໍ່ແມ່ນວ່າຄວນໃສ່. ຮຳນັ້ນຄວນໃສ່ປາແດກກໍ່ຈິງ ແຕ່ບໍ່ແມ່ນ main ingredient. Your padek ingredient sounds rather old...it could be that you are having ສີເຈົ້າເອົາຮຮຮຫຳເຂົ້າພ້ອມນຳເຖົ້າໂຮງສີ having a flink with old fart who likes to tell dirty jokes to young people. ລະຫວັງເນີ ຢູ່ນຳຄົນແກ່ຄົນເຖົ້າຫຼາຍ ຈັກນ້ອຍກະເປັນຄົນແກ່ຄົນເຖົ້າຕາມໆກັນດອກ...ອອກໄປກິນອາຫານນອກບ້ານນຳຄົນໜຸ່ມຄົນສາວແດ່ເນີ ເປັນຫ່ວງເຈົ້າແທ້ໃດ ຢ້ານເປັນໂລກຕິດແປດຄົນເຖົ້າຊັ້ນນາ.
yeah, (Hum) ຮຳ is not just used for feeding pigs, it's also used as the main ingredient to make Lao Padek. If you don't believe me ask your mom. if she's Lao and born in Laos, she can prove to you that what i said is very true.
pizone
I do NOT even KNOW what ຮຳ is let ALONE IT NEEDS to do with PADECK.When we made our last PADECK in 1975 i saw my parents ONLY USE SALT (lots of it) and nicely clean fishes a BIG JAR and some WET ASH to cover the JAR complete SEALED. WITHOUT THE WET ASH THE jar WILL NOT do the job because it let out air and by chance SMALL agents too. in the USA hear WALMART GOT pickle JARS with rubber tight SEALs so I got one less thing to worry. IN 1979 IN AROUND NAKANG we ate PADECK by just grab a little piece of SWEET RICE round it into alittle ball and dip it into the PADECK and throw it deep into the outh. GEEZ! IT WAS TASTING SO GOOD I CAN STILL HUNGRY FOR IT NOW AFTER 35 YEARS.Those PADECK at dozen of oriental market around st.paul here sell them BUT they are tasting NOTHING BUT PURE SALT. I HAD my wife bought one too many a time and NOW SHE HATES ME EVERY TIME I ASK HER TO BUY ANOTHER TESTING JAR OF padeck FROM THOSE STORES. IF I CAN ORDER it ONLINE I´LL DO IT. ah FORGET IT those PADECK can NOT serve melike tghose SWEET BREAD STICKs AND BONELESS buffalo wings. ICAN JUST SIT HERE and clicjk the mouse for a few 5 minutes I SHOULD GOT PLENTY OF SWEET BREADS and HO
Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
2014-08-30 12:11:19 UTC
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Post by SULILEC
Good morning, Pizone!
ອາກາດດີຫຼາຍ ຢາກເຫັນຫິມະແລ້ວ ອາກາດໝາວມານີ້ ມີຫິມະຕົກ ສິ່ງແວດລອ້ມຈະຂາວງາມໄປທົ່ວ ເຈົ້າຈະເອົາສິ່ງ
ແວດລ້ອມງາມໆແນວນີ້ ຈະໄປເຮັດປາແດກສັ້ນບໍ?
Why did you say that Lao Padek must have rice husk? Are you implying that Padek is as old as ໂຮງສີເຂົ້າ rice machinery. I don't think this is true. Padek is older than that...
ປີຊ້ວນເຮີຍ, ເຈົ້າໄດ້ໄຊ້ເປືອກໝາກນັດໃສ່ສົມປາຊັ້ນບໍຈິ່ງຮູ້ວ່າຈະເປັນສົມປາ? ເຈົ້າເຄີຍເຮັດສົມປາຢູ່ບໍ?
ເຈົ້າເຄີຍພົບລຸງສຳມະນາບໍ? ພວກນີ້ນັ້ນພາກັນເຮັດສົມປາ ປາແດກ ເກັ່ງໃດ... ເຈົ້າຮູ້ພວກນີ້ ກໍ່ຈະຮູ້ວ່າສົມປານັ້ນບໍ່ຕ້ອງການໃສ່ໝາກນັດ ຫຼຶ ເຄື່ອງສົມເລີຍ. ປາແດກກະບໍ່ຕ້ອງການຮຳ ເຖິງແມ່ນວ່າລາວປາແດກ
ນັ້ນຄວນຈະໃສ່ຮຳ.
OK, if you are going to make padak this winter, do let know your ingredient and method. I'll be waiting to hear. If so stingy of your recipe than just post and let know if you did make it into Lao Padak for good. Oh, also let know where in the world you are going to get rice husk. Since WTO has not even approved of rice husk sold to USA market. Proof it if you have seem Rice Husk anywhere in US store.
Sulilec
Post by pizone
Lao Padek, the pitical and real original one has to have Hum. That's why Padek-Lao is different and unique. What we eat here in the US is the modified one, made in Thailand mostly (some made in the Philippines and Vietnam), they're like sulilec don't know anything about how to make Lao Padek. The Thai might know, but they like to do their way...
Yes, Hum is the main ingredient to make Lao Padek and I didn't say it's the only one main ingredient.
if i don't have anything else to do, i'll might make Lao-Padek, made in the USA for and sell with highest price (at $1,000/jar) like the Japanese produce their most expesive fruits seen in the article.
pizone
Post by SULILEC
ປີຊ້ວນເຮີຍ,
ຈັ່ງແມ່ນດຶກດຳບັນແທ້ນໍ Classic jokes ຂອງເຈົ້ານັ້ນ ເວົ້າບໍ່ສະໝັກນຳລາຍນຳດອກ... I bet you hang around with old Lao folks too much that you think Lao Padek must have ຮຳ as the only main ingredient. Even have over look my point of view that there is a way that Lao people had made Padek without ຮຳ. ຖ້າຮຳບໍ່ມີ ຫຼຶ ລາຄາແພງເກີນໄປທີ່ຊື້ບໍ່ໄດ້ ດັ່ງພວກເຮົາຄົນລາວທີ່ຢູ່ອະເມຣິການັ້ນ ເຈົ້າວ່າກະເຈົ້າໃສ່ຫຍັງ? ເຂົ້າໃຈວ່າ Main ingredient ນັ້ນໝາຍຄວາມວ່າສິ່ງທີ່ຂາດບໍ່ໄດ້ໃດ ບໍ່ແມ່ນວ່າຄວນໃສ່. ຮຳນັ້ນຄວນໃສ່ປາແດກກໍ່ຈິງ ແຕ່ບໍ່ແມ່ນ main ingredient. Your padek ingredient sounds rather old...it could be that you are having ສີເຈົ້າເອົາຮຮຮຫຳເຂົ້າພ້ອມນຳເຖົ້າໂຮງສີ having a flink with old fart who likes to tell dirty jokes to young people. ລະຫວັງເນີ ຢູ່ນຳຄົນແກ່ຄົນເຖົ້າຫຼາຍ ຈັກນ້ອຍກະເປັນຄົນແກ່ຄົນເຖົ້າຕາມໆກັນດອກ...ອອກໄປກິນອາຫານນອກບ້ານນຳຄົນໜຸ່ມຄົນສາວແດ່ເນີ ເປັນຫ່ວງເຈົ້າແທ້ໃດ ຢ້ານເປັນໂລກຕິດແປດຄົນເຖົ້າຊັ້ນນາ.
yeah, (Hum) ຮຳ is not just used for feeding pigs, it's also used as the main ingredient to make Lao Padek. If you don't believe me ask your mom. if she's Lao and born in Laos, she can prove to you that what i said is very true.
pizone
I do NOT even KNOW what ຮຳ is let ALONE IT NEEDS to do with PADECK.When we made our last PADECK in 1975 i saw my parents ONLY USE SALT (lots of it) and nicely clean fishes a BIG JAR and some WET ASH to cover the JAR complete SEALED. WITHOUT THE WET ASH THE jar WILL NOT do the job because it let out air and by chance SMALL agents too. in the USA hear WALMART GOT pickle JARS with rubber tight SEALs so I got one less thing to worry. IN 1979 IN AROUND NAKANG we ate PADECK by just grab a little piece of SWEET RICE round it into alittle ball and dip it into the PADECK and throw it deep into the outh. GEEZ! IT WAS TASTING SO GOOD I CAN STILL HUNGRY FOR IT NOW AFTER 35 YEARS.Those PADECK at dozen of oriental market around st.paul here sell them BUT they are tasting NOTHING BUT PURE SALT. I HAD my wife bought one too many a time and NOW SHE HATES ME EVERY TIME I ASK HER TO BUY ANOTHER TESTING JAR OF padeck FROM THOSE STORES. IF I CAN ORDER it ONLINE I´LL DO IT. ah FORGET IT those PADECK can NOT serve melike tghose SWEET BREAD STICKs AND BONELESS buffalo wings. ICAN JUST SIT HERE and clicjk the mouse for a few 5 minutes I SHOULD GOT PLENTY OF SWEET BREADS and HOT BONELESS ELEPHANT WINGS.55555.oops! it is 55101.
my METHOD RECIPE turn out to be PAKIEM/SALTED FISH so IḾ LEFT with zero PADEK recipe so that will push me further into PICKLE FISH IN MY NEXT ROUND OF CARP/BUFFALO and white bass fishing up here in MN. I BETTER DO IT SOON because the SNOW
HT
2014-08-31 11:57:43 UTC
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Padek do use rice husk or rice bran in the fermenting process, if you don't use it I guarantee you will have sompa in a few weeks or the fish will end in the bin. The secret is the ratio of fish/salt/husk, good Padek is not salty but rich and flavorsome.

What all the Padek to do with WTO? for those who wish to bypass the US health regulation, you can use local rice husk, local fish. So please go ahead and try making it and then see if you can export it back to Laos and Asia.

The issue are not if these trophies are of any value, they are if you do something with them. Unfortunately like FTA Laos has not been able to fully benefited from them.

By the way Google for "how to make Padek" will give you an idea how to go about it.
Post by SULILEC
Good morning, Pizone!
ອາກາດດີຫຼາຍ ຢາກເຫັນຫິມະແລ້ວ ອາກາດໝາວມານີ້ ມີຫິມະຕົກ ສິ່ງແວດລອ້ມຈະຂາວງາມໄປທົ່ວ ເຈົ້າຈະເອົາສິ່ງ
ແວດລ້ອມງາມໆແນວນີ້ ຈະໄປເຮັດປາແດກສັ້ນບໍ?
Why did you say that Lao Padek must have rice husk? Are you implying that Padek is as old as ໂຮງສີເຂົ້າ rice machinery. I don't think this is true. Padek is older than that...
ປີຊ້ວນເຮີຍ, ເຈົ້າໄດ້ໄຊ້ເປືອກໝາກນັດໃສ່ສົມປາຊັ້ນບໍຈິ່ງຮູ້ວ່າຈະເປັນສົມປາ? ເຈົ້າເຄີຍເຮັດສົມປາຢູ່ບໍ?
ເຈົ້າເຄີຍພົບລຸງສຳມະນາບໍ? ພວກນີ້ນັ້ນພາກັນເຮັດສົມປາ ປາແດກ ເກັ່ງໃດ... ເຈົ້າຮູ້ພວກນີ້ ກໍ່ຈະຮູ້ວ່າສົມປານັ້ນບໍ່ຕ້ອງການໃສ່ໝາກນັດ ຫຼຶ ເຄື່ອງສົມເລີຍ. ປາແດກກະບໍ່ຕ້ອງການຮຳ ເຖິງແມ່ນວ່າລາວປາແດກ
ນັ້ນຄວນຈະໃສ່ຮຳ.
OK, if you are going to make padak this winter, do let know your ingredient and method. I'll be waiting to hear. If so stingy of your recipe than just post and let know if you did make it into Lao Padak for good. Oh, also let know where in the world you are going to get rice husk. Since WTO has not even approved of rice husk sold to USA market. Proof it if you have seem Rice Husk anywhere in US store.
Sulilec
Post by pizone
Lao Padek, the pitical and real original one has to have Hum. That's why Padek-Lao is different and unique. What we eat here in the US is the modified one, made in Thailand mostly (some made in the Philippines and Vietnam), they're like sulilec don't know anything about how to make Lao Padek. The Thai might know, but they like to do their way...
Yes, Hum is the main ingredient to make Lao Padek and I didn't say it's the only one main ingredient.
if i don't have anything else to do, i'll might make Lao-Padek, made in the USA for and sell with highest price (at $1,000/jar) like the Japanese produce their most expesive fruits seen in the article.
pizone
Post by SULILEC
ປີຊ້ວນເຮີຍ,
ຈັ່ງແມ່ນດຶກດຳບັນແທ້ນໍ Classic jokes ຂອງເຈົ້ານັ້ນ ເວົ້າບໍ່ສະໝັກນຳລາຍນຳດອກ... I bet you hang around with old Lao folks too much that you think Lao Padek must have ຮຳ as the only main ingredient. Even have over look my point of view that there is a way that Lao people had made Padek without ຮຳ. ຖ້າຮຳບໍ່ມີ ຫຼຶ ລາຄາແພງເກີນໄປທີ່ຊື້ບໍ່ໄດ້ ດັ່ງພວກເຮົາຄົນລາວທີ່ຢູ່ອະເມຣິການັ້ນ ເຈົ້າວ່າກະເຈົ້າໃສ່ຫຍັງ? ເຂົ້າໃຈວ່າ Main ingredient ນັ້ນໝາຍຄວາມວ່າສິ່ງທີ່ຂາດບໍ່ໄດ້ໃດ ບໍ່ແມ່ນວ່າຄວນໃສ່. ຮຳນັ້ນຄວນໃສ່ປາແດກກໍ່ຈິງ ແຕ່ບໍ່ແມ່ນ main ingredient. Your padek ingredient sounds rather old...it could be that you are having ສີເຈົ້າເອົາຮຮຮຫຳເຂົ້າພ້ອມນຳເຖົ້າໂຮງສີ having a flink with old fart who likes to tell dirty jokes to young people. ລະຫວັງເນີ ຢູ່ນຳຄົນແກ່ຄົນເຖົ້າຫຼາຍ ຈັກນ້ອຍກະເປັນຄົນແກ່ຄົນເຖົ້າຕາມໆກັນດອກ...ອອກໄປກິນອາຫານນອກບ້ານນຳຄົນໜຸ່ມຄົນສາວແດ່ເນີ ເປັນຫ່ວງເຈົ້າແທ້ໃດ ຢ້ານເປັນໂລກຕິດແປດຄົນເຖົ້າຊັ້ນນາ.
yeah, (Hum) ຮຳ is not just used for feeding pigs, it's also used as the main ingredient to make Lao Padek. If you don't believe me ask your mom. if she's Lao and born in Laos, she can prove to you that what i said is very true.
pizone
I do NOT even KNOW what ຮຳ is let ALONE IT NEEDS to do with PADECK.When we made our last PADECK in 1975 i saw my parents ONLY USE SALT (lots of it) and nicely clean fishes a BIG JAR and some WET ASH to cover the JAR complete SEALED. WITHOUT THE WET ASH THE jar WILL NOT do the job because it let out air and by chance SMALL agents too. in the USA hear WALMART GOT pickle JARS with rubber tight SEALs so I got one less thing to worry. IN 1979 IN AROUND NAKANG we ate PADECK by just grab a little piece of SWEET RICE round it into alittle ball and dip it into the PADECK and throw it deep into the outh. GEEZ! IT WAS TASTING SO GOOD I CAN STILL HUNGRY FOR IT NOW AFTER 35 YEARS.Those PADECK at dozen of oriental market around st.paul here sell them BUT they are tasting NOTHING BUT PURE SALT. I HAD my wife bought one too many a time and NOW SHE HATES ME EVERY TIME I ASK HER TO BUY ANOTHER TESTING JAR OF padeck FROM THOSE STORES. IF I CAN ORDER it ONLINE I´LL DO IT. ah FORGET IT those PADECK can NOT serve melike tghose SWEET BREAD STICKs AND BONELESS buffalo wings. ICAN JUST SIT HERE and clicjk the mouse for a few 5 minutes I SHOULD GOT PLENTY OF SWEET BREADS and HOT BONELESS ELEPHANT WINGS.55555.oops! it is 55101
Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
2014-08-31 13:59:48 UTC
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Post by HT
Padek do use rice husk or rice bran in the fermenting process, if you don't use it I guarantee you will have sompa in a few weeks or the fish will end in the bin. The secret is the ratio of fish/salt/husk, good Padek is not salty but rich and flavorsome.
What all the Padek to do with WTO? for those who wish to bypass the US health regulation, you can use local rice husk, local fish. So please go ahead and try making it and then see if you can export it back to Laos and Asia.
The issue are not if these trophies are of any value, they are if you do something with them. Unfortunately like FTA Laos has not been able to fully benefited from them.
By the way Google for "how to make Padek" will give you an idea how to go about it.
Post by SULILEC
Good morning, Pizone!
ອາກາດດີຫຼາຍ ຢາກເຫັນຫິມະແລ້ວ ອາກາດໝາວມານີ້ ມີຫິມະຕົກ ສິ່ງແວດລອ້ມຈະຂາວງາມໄປທົ່ວ ເຈົ້າຈະເອົາສິ່ງ
ແວດລ້ອມງາມໆແນວນີ້ ຈະໄປເຮັດປາແດກສັ້ນບໍ?
Why did you say that Lao Padek must have rice husk? Are you implying that Padek is as old as ໂຮງສີເຂົ້າ rice machinery. I don't think this is true. Padek is older than that...
ປີຊ້ວນເຮີຍ, ເຈົ້າໄດ້ໄຊ້ເປືອກໝາກນັດໃສ່ສົມປາຊັ້ນບໍຈິ່ງຮູ້ວ່າຈະເປັນສົມປາ? ເຈົ້າເຄີຍເຮັດສົມປາຢູ່ບໍ?
ເຈົ້າເຄີຍພົບລຸງສຳມະນາບໍ? ພວກນີ້ນັ້ນພາກັນເຮັດສົມປາ ປາແດກ ເກັ່ງໃດ... ເຈົ້າຮູ້ພວກນີ້ ກໍ່ຈະຮູ້ວ່າສົມປານັ້ນບໍ່ຕ້ອງການໃສ່ໝາກນັດ ຫຼຶ ເຄື່ອງສົມເລີຍ. ປາແດກກະບໍ່ຕ້ອງການຮຳ ເຖິງແມ່ນວ່າລາວປາແດກ
ນັ້ນຄວນຈະໃສ່ຮຳ.
OK, if you are going to make padak this winter, do let know your ingredient and method. I'll be waiting to hear. If so stingy of your recipe than just post and let know if you did make it into Lao Padak for good. Oh, also let know where in the world you are going to get rice husk. Since WTO has not even approved of rice husk sold to USA market. Proof it if you have seem Rice Husk anywhere in US store.
Sulilec
Post by pizone
Lao Padek, the pitical and real original one has to have Hum. That's why Padek-Lao is different and unique. What we eat here in the US is the modified one, made in Thailand mostly (some made in the Philippines and Vietnam), they're like sulilec don't know anything about how to make Lao Padek. The Thai might know, but they like to do their way...
Yes, Hum is the main ingredient to make Lao Padek and I didn't say it's the only one main ingredient.
if i don't have anything else to do, i'll might make Lao-Padek, made in the USA for and sell with highest price (at $1,000/jar) like the Japanese produce their most expesive fruits seen in the article.
pizone
Post by SULILEC
ປີຊ້ວນເຮີຍ,
ຈັ່ງແມ່ນດຶກດຳບັນແທ້ນໍ Classic jokes ຂອງເຈົ້ານັ້ນ ເວົ້າບໍ່ສະໝັກນຳລາຍນຳດອກ... I bet you hang around with old Lao folks too much that you think Lao Padek must have ຮຳ as the only main ingredient. Even have over look my point of view that there is a way that Lao people had made Padek without ຮຳ. ຖ້າຮຳບໍ່ມີ ຫຼຶ ລາຄາແພງເກີນໄປທີ່ຊື້ບໍ່ໄດ້ ດັ່ງພວກເຮົາຄົນລາວທີ່ຢູ່ອະເມຣິການັ້ນ ເຈົ້າວ່າກະເຈົ້າໃສ່ຫຍັງ? ເຂົ້າໃຈວ່າ Main ingredient ນັ້ນໝາຍຄວາມວ່າສິ່ງທີ່ຂາດບໍ່ໄດ້ໃດ ບໍ່ແມ່ນວ່າຄວນໃສ່. ຮຳນັ້ນຄວນໃສ່ປາແດກກໍ່ຈິງ ແຕ່ບໍ່ແມ່ນ main ingredient. Your padek ingredient sounds rather old...it could be that you are having ສີເຈົ້າເອົາຮຮຮຫຳເຂົ້າພ້ອມນຳເຖົ້າໂຮງສີ having a flink with old fart who likes to tell dirty jokes to young people. ລະຫວັງເນີ ຢູ່ນຳຄົນແກ່ຄົນເຖົ້າຫຼາຍ ຈັກນ້ອຍກະເປັນຄົນແກ່ຄົນເຖົ້າຕາມໆກັນດອກ...ອອກໄປກິນອາຫານນອກບ້ານນຳຄົນໜຸ່ມຄົນສາວແດ່ເນີ ເປັນຫ່ວງເຈົ້າແທ້ໃດ ຢ້ານເປັນໂລກຕິດແປດຄົນເຖົ້າຊັ້ນນາ.
yeah, (Hum) ຮຳ is not just used for feeding pigs, it's also used as the main ingredient to make Lao Padek. If you don't believe me ask your mom. if she's Lao and born in Laos, she can prove to you that what i said is very true.
pizone
I do NOT even KNOW what ຮຳ is let ALONE IT NEEDS to do with PADECK.When we made our last PADECK in 1975 i saw my parents ONLY USE SALT (lots of it) and nicely clean fishes a BIG JAR and some WET ASH to cover the JAR complete SEALED. WITHOUT THE WET ASH THE jar WILL NOT do the job because it let out air and by chance SMALL agents too. in the USA hear WALMART GOT pickle JARS with rubber tight SEALs so I got one less thing to worry. IN 1979 IN AROUND NAKANG we ate PADECK by just grab a little piece of SWEET RICE round it into alittle ball and dip it into the PADECK and throw it deep into the outh. GEEZ! IT WAS TASTING SO GOOD I CAN STILL HUNGRY FOR IT NOW AFTER 35 YEARS.Those PADECK at dozen of oriental market around st.paul here sell them BUT they are tasting NOTHING BUT PURE SALT. I HAD my wife bought one too many a time and NOW SHE HATES ME EVERY TIME I ASK HER TO BUY ANOTHER TESTING JAR OF padeck FROM THOSE STORES. IF I CAN ORDER it ONLINE I´LL DO IT. ah FORGET IT those PADECK can NOT serve melike tghose SWEET BREAD STICKs AND BONELESS buffalo wings. ICAN JUST SIT HERE and clicjk the mouse for a few 5 minutes I SHOULD GOT PLENTY OF SWEET BREADS and HOT BONELESS ELEPHANT WINGS.55555.oops! it is 55101.
THANKS that is it the most critical thing in PADEK is the RATIO of fish, salt, and husk any mix with the WRONG RATIO and you end up with something EXTREMELY SMELLY. I DID to know that. the husk we can replace it with other STARCH item will the SALT can also be replace by other too (ie. fish sauce). the husk IS NEEDED TO INITIATED THE FERMENTATION PROCESS without it I GET pakiem just like those at the orie
ທ້າວໄຂ່ມືດ
2014-08-31 22:34:58 UTC
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It is NOT the rice husk! Only idiots would use the husk to make Padek. It is the rice BRAN that's needed to make Padek. BRAN = hum. Husk = keegab. Do NOT use keegab!

I've made my own Padek here in the US several times with great results. I've even posted it in Bailane before but I can't find the post now. What I use here in the US is sushi grade tuna(friends working as shushi chefs gave me), soft shell crabs(from same friend), salt and oat BRAN from GNC. Yes the health store GNC sells oat BRAN. Used to eat it by the handful when I wrestled in high school. I take sushi grade tuna cut about 1/2"-3/4" thick, put one layer in a washed Costco glass pickle jar(they are huge). Yes, use glass jars, never plastic! Cover with salt and oat BRAN, add layer of soft shell crab, cover that with salt and oat BRAN, repeat until the jar is full. Close jar with lid. Keep in dry, dark and cool closet. In a couple of months, enjoy the BEST(and probably very costly if I had to pay for the ingredients myself) jar of Padek ever!

I take several slices out and fry it up. Yummmmmm!

The soft shell crab Padek pieces are great fried in scrambled eggs. Jump(dip) path at with khaoniel and I'm in heaven!
s***@gmail.com
2014-09-01 21:36:55 UTC
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HT,
Thanks for participating in this post. Happy Labor day to you!

You can team up with Pizone to whom can/want to make Padek dish and send it back to Laos. Nothing much with WTO, I am sure if anyone of us want to make Padak anything can happen. Afterall, USA is a land of the opportunity. I still hold that believe.

As you and I know, Padak is a type of flavor/a sauce add to make tasty food. Ironically, some Laotian even add MSG to it even though, I personally have tried the dish and believe that it's already tasty, in fact, too tasty. Hehhe!!

And so as it seems, we all got our own recipe to make Padak. I hope Pizone will share his though. B/c it's obviously that his using rice hull/husk/bran is quit popular. Some even said, it can not be w/o. I even am come to admit that it is very popular main ingredient to add rice husk.

Lao dish is very diversified. Even making Lao Padak dish that everyone knows/familiar, we still not agree. But at least, we must agree that rice husk is a main popular dish in padak ingredient, however, ແກບນັ້ນກໍ່ແມ່ນຮຳ ເພາະຮຳນັ້ນຈະຕ້ອງມີແກບ ຖ້າບໍ່ມີແກບ ຈະບໍ່ແມ່ນຮຳ. ອັນນີ້ລາວເຮົາຄົງຮູ້ກັນແລ້ວຕິເນາະ...
Post by HT
Padek do use rice husk or rice bran in the fermenting process, if you don't use it I guarantee you will have sompa in a few weeks or the fish will end in the bin. The secret is the ratio of fish/salt/husk, good Padek is not salty but rich and flavorsome.
What all the Padek to do with WTO? for those who wish to bypass the US health regulation, you can use local rice husk, local fish. So please go ahead and try making it and then see if you can export it back to Laos and Asia.
The issue are not if these trophies are of any value, they are if you do something with them. Unfortunately like FTA Laos has not been able to fully benefited from them.
SULILEC
2014-09-01 21:57:24 UTC
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HT,
Thanks for participating in this post. Happy Labor day to you!

You can team up with Pizone to whom can/want to make Padek dish and send it back to Laos. Nothing much with WTO, I am sure if anyone of us want to make Padak anything can happen. Afterall, USA is a land of the opportunity. I still hold that believe.

As you and I know, Padak is a type of flavor/a sauce add to make tasty food. Ironically, some Laotian even add MSG to it even though, I personally have tried the dish and believe that it's already tasty, in fact, too tasty. Hehhe!!

And so as it seems, we all got our own recipe to make Padak. I hope Pizone will share his though. B/c it's obviously that his using rice hull/husk/bran is quit popular that could not be without. I even am come to admit that it is very popular main ingredient to add rice husk.

Lao dish is very diversified. Even making Lao Padak dish that everyone knows/familiar, we still not agree. But at least, we must agree that rice husk is a main popular dish in padak ingredient, ແກບນັ້ນກໍ່ແມ່ນຮຳ ເພາະຮຳນັ້ນຈະຕ້ອງມີແກບ ຖ້າບໍ່ມີແກບ ຈະບໍ່ແມ່ນຮຳ. ອັນນີ້ລາວເຮົາຄົງຮູ້ກັນແລ້ວຕິເນາະ...
Post by HT
Padek do use rice husk or rice bran in the fermenting process, if you don't use it I guarantee you will have sompa in a few weeks or the fish will end in the bin. The secret is the ratio of fish/salt/husk, good Padek is not salty but rich and flavorsome.
What all the Padek to do with WTO? for those who wish to bypass the US health regulation, you can use local rice husk, local fish. So please go ahead and try making it and then see if you can export it back to Laos and Asia.
Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
2014-09-02 05:45:29 UTC
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Post by s***@gmail.com
HT,
Thanks for participating in this post. Happy Labor day to you!
You can team up with Pizone to whom can/want to make Padek dish and send it back to Laos. Nothing much with WTO, I am sure if anyone of us want to make Padak anything can happen. Afterall, USA is a land of the opportunity. I still hold that believe.
As you and I know, Padak is a type of flavor/a sauce add to make tasty food. Ironically, some Laotian even add MSG to it even though, I personally have tried the dish and believe that it's already tasty, in fact, too tasty. Hehhe!!
And so as it seems, we all got our own recipe to make Padak. I hope Pizone will share his though. B/c it's obviously that his using rice hull/husk/bran is quit popular that could not be without. I even am come to admit that it is very popular main ingredient to add rice husk.
Lao dish is very diversified. Even making Lao Padak dish that everyone knows/familiar, we still not agree. But at least, we must agree that rice husk is a main popular dish in padak ingredient, ແກບນັ້ນກໍ່ແມ່ນຮຳ ເພາະຮຳນັ້ນຈະຕ້ອງມີແກບ ຖ້າບໍ່ມີແກບ ຈະບໍ່ແມ່ນຮຳ. ອັນນີ້ລາວເຮົາຄົງຮູ້ກັນແລ້ວຕິເນາະ...
Post by HT
Padek do use rice husk or rice bran in the fermenting process, if you don't use it I guarantee you will have sompa in a few weeks or the fish will end in the bin. The secret is the ratio of fish/salt/husk, good Padek is not salty but rich and flavorsome.
What all the Padek to do with WTO? for those who wish to bypass the US health regulation, you can use local rice husk, local fish. So please go ahead and try making it and then see if you can export it back to Laos and Asia.
PICKLE FISH IS MY FAVORITE NOW. ALL I NEED IS VINEGAR, SUGAR, and SALT ratio it to your taste the result looks cleaner and also LAST/PRESERVE THE FISH for YEARS SO my fishing season in the summer should LAST that whole year to the NEXT SUMMER up here in the FREEZING COLD -40 degree F and SNOW MINNESOTA.
pizone
2014-09-02 21:56:44 UTC
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i don't care much about the meaning of the English words husk, hull, or bran. They're a bit different according to what kind of grains or seeds, and the processing they use to take off their covers or the outer layer of the seeds..., but in Lao language, the work Hum is used for the left over from the processing of the rice only.

there're two kinds on Hum, Hum-Orn and Hum-Kair.

ຮຳມີ 2 ຢ່າງຄື ຮຳອ່ອນ ແລະຮຳແກ່
ຮຳທີ່ເອົາເຮັດປາແດກນັ້ນ ສ່ວນຫລາຍເພິ່ນເອົາຮຳແກ່ເຮັດ

ຮຳ ກັບ ແກບ ບໍ່ຄືກັນ ບໍ່ແມ່ນອັນດຽວກັນຄືນາງ ລ່ວງສຸລີເລັກເວົ້າ

ຮຳ ແມ່ນ ເປືອກເຂົ້າທີ່ຖືກສີຈົນມຸ່ນ ປົນກັບ ຫົວເຂົ້າແລະເຂົ້າຫັກເຂົ້າມຸ່ນ ໄດ້ຈາກການສີເຂົ້າ

ແກບ ແມ່ນ ເຂົ້າເປືອກລີບ ທີ່ບໍ່ມີເມັດເຂົ້າຢູ່ທາງໃນ ໄດ້ຈາກການຝັດເຂົ້າ ວີເຂົ້າ ຫລືວິທີການອື່ນໆ ທີ່ແຍກເຂົ້າລີບ ອອກຈາກເຂົ້າເຕັມເມັດ ກ່ອນຈະເອົາເຂົ້າໄປສີ ທີ່ໂຮງສີເຂົ້າ. ຊາວໄທດຳມັກເຮັດເຫລົ້າໄຫແຊບໆ ໄວ້ດູດດື່ມ ຊຸມແຊວກັນໃນຍາມບຸນ ສ່ວນສຳຄັນໃນການເຮັດເຫລົ້າໄຫກໍແມ່ນ ເຂົ້າແກບຫລືຂີ້ແກບນີ້ເອງ.

ອັນທ້າວ ຫຳແຫລ້ ເຮັດປາແດກຕາມທີ່ຂີ້ໂມ້ມານັ້ນ ກໍ ok ບໍ່ມີໃຜວ່າຫຍັງ ຈະເຮັດຫຍັງກິນແນວໃດ ກໍບໍ່ຜິດຫຍັງ ຈະໃສ່ປູແປ້ງປູອ່ອນ ກໍຄົງບໍ່ເບື່ອຕາຍ ແຕ່ຈະເອີ້ນວ່າປາແດກໄດ້ແນວໃດ ຄັນບໍ່ໄມ້ຫລືສາກ "ແດກ" ມັນລົງໄປ. ລຽນມັນລົງໄປເປັນຊັ້ນໆດັ່ງນັ້ນ ຄວນຈະເອີ້ນມັນວ່າ "ປາຊັ້ນ" ຫລື "ປາປູເປັນຊັ້ນໆ".

ຈະເປັນປາແດກແບບລາວໆ ຕ້ອງມີແນວ "ແດກ" ຫລື ຖັ່ງ ຍັດມັນລົງໄປໃຫ້ແຈບໆ ກ່ອນຈະເອົາໄປໝັກໄວ້ເປັນປີ ໃຫ້ມັນເປັນປາແດກແຊບໆໆໆໆ ແບບລາວໆໆໆໆໆໆ

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Post by Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
Post by s***@gmail.com
HT,
Thanks for participating in this post. Happy Labor day to you!
You can team up with Pizone to whom can/want to make Padek dish and send it back to Laos. Nothing much with WTO, I am sure if anyone of us want to make Padak anything can happen. Afterall, USA is a land of the opportunity. I still hold that believe.
As you and I know, Padak is a type of flavor/a sauce add to make tasty food. Ironically, some Laotian even add MSG to it even though, I personally have tried the dish and believe that it's already tasty, in fact, too tasty. Hehhe!!
And so as it seems, we all got our own recipe to make Padak. I hope Pizone will share his though. B/c it's obviously that his using rice hull/husk/bran is quit popular that could not be without. I even am come to admit that it is very popular main ingredient to add rice husk.
Lao dish is very diversified. Even making Lao Padak dish that everyone knows/familiar, we still not agree. But at least, we must agree that rice husk is a main popular dish in padak ingredient, ແກບນັ້ນກໍ່ແມ່ນຮຳ ເພາະຮຳນັ້ນຈະຕ້ອງມີແກບ ຖ້າບໍ່ມີແກບ ຈະບໍ່ແມ່ນຮຳ. ອັນນີ້ລາວເຮົາຄົງຮູ້ກັນແລ້ວຕິເນາະ...
Post by HT
Padek do use rice husk or rice bran in the fermenting process, if you don't use it I guarantee you will have sompa in a few weeks or the fish will end in the bin. The secret is the ratio of fish/salt/husk, good Padek is not salty but rich and flavorsome.
What all the Padek to do with WTO? for those who wish to bypass the US health regulation, you can use local rice husk, local fish. So please go ahead and try making it and then see if you can export it back to Laos and Asia.
PICKLE FISH IS MY FAVORITE NOW. ALL I NEED IS VINEGAR, SUGAR, and SALT ratio it to your taste the result looks cleaner and also LAST/PRESERVE THE FISH for YEARS SO my fishing season in the summer should LAST that whole year to the NEXT SUMMER up here in the FREEZ
Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
2014-09-03 00:52:33 UTC
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ຮຳ IS THE CATALYST AGENT THAT INITIATED THE FERMENTATION PROCESS. ALL WE NEED HERE IS AN ELEMENT OF STARCH that it can be substitute with other STARCH LIKE RICE ITSELF OR A BOWL OF COOKED/FRIED RICE FLOUR/POWDER. PICKLE FISH REQUIRES the same catalyst agent of sugar and vinegar too.
Post by pizone
i don't care much about the meaning of the English words husk, hull, or bran. They're a bit different according to what kind of grains or seeds, and the processing they use to take off their covers or the outer layer of the seeds..., but in Lao language, the work Hum is used for the left over from the processing of the rice only.
there're two kinds on Hum, Hum-Orn and Hum-Kair.
ຮຳມີ 2 ຢ່າງຄື ຮຳອ່ອນ ແລະຮຳແກ່
ຮຳທີ່ເອົາເຮັດປາແດກນັ້ນ ສ່ວນຫລາຍເພິ່ນເອົາຮຳແກ່ເຮັດ
ຮຳ ກັບ ແກບ ບໍ່ຄືກັນ ບໍ່ແມ່ນອັນດຽວກັນຄືນາງ ລ່ວງສຸລີເລັກເວົ້າ
ຮຳ ແມ່ນ ເປືອກເຂົ້າທີ່ຖືກສີຈົນມຸ່ນ ປົນກັບ ຫົວເຂົ້າແລະເຂົ້າຫັກເຂົ້າມຸ່ນ ໄດ້ຈາກການສີເຂົ້າ
ແກບ ແມ່ນ ເຂົ້າເປືອກລີບ ທີ່ບໍ່ມີເມັດເຂົ້າຢູ່ທາງໃນ ໄດ້ຈາກການຝັດເຂົ້າ ວີເຂົ້າ ຫລືວິທີການອື່ນໆ ທີ່ແຍກເຂົ້າລີບ ອອກຈາກເຂົ້າເຕັມເມັດ ກ່ອນຈະເອົາເຂົ້າໄປສີ ທີ່ໂຮງສີເຂົ້າ. ຊາວໄທດຳມັກເຮັດເຫລົ້າໄຫແຊບໆ ໄວ້ດູດດື່ມ ຊຸມແຊວກັນໃນຍາມບຸນ ສ່ວນສຳຄັນໃນການເຮັດເຫລົ້າໄຫກໍແມ່ນ ເຂົ້າແກບຫລືຂີ້ແກບນີ້ເອງ.
ອັນທ້າວ ຫຳແຫລ້ ເຮັດປາແດກຕາມທີ່ຂີ້ໂມ້ມານັ້ນ ກໍ ok ບໍ່ມີໃຜວ່າຫຍັງ ຈະເຮັດຫຍັງກິນແນວໃດ ກໍບໍ່ຜິດຫຍັງ ຈະໃສ່ປູແປ້ງປູອ່ອນ ກໍຄົງບໍ່ເບື່ອຕາຍ ແຕ່ຈະເອີ້ນວ່າປາແດກໄດ້ແນວໃດ ຄັນບໍ່ໄມ້ຫລືສາກ "ແດກ" ມັນລົງໄປ. ລຽນມັນລົງໄປເປັນຊັ້ນໆດັ່ງນັ້ນ ຄວນຈະເອີ້ນມັນວ່າ "ປາຊັ້ນ" ຫລື "ປາປູເປັນຊັ້ນໆ".
ຈະເປັນປາແດກແບບລາວໆ ຕ້ອງມີແນວ "ແດກ" ຫລື ຖັ່ງ ຍັດມັນລົງໄປໃຫ້ແຈບໆ ກ່ອນຈະເອົາໄປໝັກໄວ້ເປັນປີ ໃຫ້ມັນເປັນປາແດກແຊບໆໆໆໆ ແບບລາວໆໆໆໆໆໆ
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Post by Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
Post by s***@gmail.com
HT,
Thanks for participating in this post. Happy Labor day to you!
You can team up with Pizone to whom can/want to make Padek dish and send it back to Laos. Nothing much with WTO, I am sure if anyone of us want to make Padak anything can happen. Afterall, USA is a land of the opportunity. I still hold that believe.
As you and I know, Padak is a type of flavor/a sauce add to make tasty food. Ironically, some Laotian even add MSG to it even though, I personally have tried the dish and believe that it's already tasty, in fact, too tasty. Hehhe!!
And so as it seems, we all got our own recipe to make Padak. I hope Pizone will share his though. B/c it's obviously that his using rice hull/husk/bran is quit popular that could not be without. I even am come to admit that it is very popular main ingredient to add rice husk.
Lao dish is very diversified. Even making Lao Padak dish that everyone knows/familiar, we still not agree. But at least, we must agree that rice husk is a main popular dish in padak ingredient, ແກບນັ້ນກໍ່ແມ່ນຮຳ ເພາະຮຳນັ້ນຈະຕ້ອງມີແກບ ຖ້າບໍ່ມີແກບ ຈະບໍ່ແມ່ນຮຳ. ອັນນີ້ລາວເຮົາຄົງຮູ້ກັນແລ້ວຕິເນາະ...
Post by HT
Padek do use rice husk or rice bran in the fermenting process, if you don't use it I guarantee you will have sompa in a few weeks or the fish will end in the bin. The secret is the ratio of fish/salt/husk, good Padek is not salty but rich and flavorsome.
What all the Padek to do with WTO? for those who wish to bypass the US health regulation, you can use local rice husk, local fish. So please go ahead and try making it and then see if you can export it back to Laos and Asia.
PICKLE FISH IS MY FAVORITE NOW. ALL I NEED IS VINEGAR, SUGAR, and SALT ratio it to your taste the result looks cleaner and also LAST/PRESERVE THE FISH for YEARS SO my fishing season in the summer should LAST that whole year to the NEXT SUMMER up here in the FREEZING COLD -40 degree F and SNO
KC
2014-09-03 01:55:37 UTC
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ປາແດກກົ້ນໄຫ

Post by pizone
i don't care much about the meaning of the English words husk, hull, or bran. They're a bit different according to what kind of grains or seeds, and the processing they use to take off their covers or the outer layer of the seeds..., but in Lao language, the work Hum is used for the left over from the processing of the rice only.
there're two kinds on Hum, Hum-Orn and Hum-Kair.
ຮຳມີ 2 ຢ່າງຄື ຮຳອ່ອນ ແລະຮຳແກ່
ຮຳທີ່ເອົາເຮັດປາແດກນັ້ນ ສ່ວນຫລາຍເພິ່ນເອົາຮຳແກ່ເຮັດ
ຮຳ ກັບ ແກບ ບໍ່ຄືກັນ ບໍ່ແມ່ນອັນດຽວກັນຄືນາງ ລ່ວງສຸລີເລັກເວົ້າ
ຮຳ ແມ່ນ ເປືອກເຂົ້າທີ່ຖືກສີຈົນມຸ່ນ ປົນກັບ ຫົວເຂົ້າແລະເຂົ້າຫັກເຂົ້າມຸ່ນ ໄດ້ຈາກການສີເຂົ້າ
ແກບ ແມ່ນ ເຂົ້າເປືອກລີບ ທີ່ບໍ່ມີເມັດເຂົ້າຢູ່ທາງໃນ ໄດ້ຈາກການຝັດເຂົ້າ ວີເຂົ້າ ຫລືວິທີການອື່ນໆ ທີ່ແຍກເຂົ້າລີບ ອອກຈາກເຂົ້າເຕັມເມັດ ກ່ອນຈະເອົາເຂົ້າໄປສີ ທີ່ໂຮງສີເຂົ້າ. ຊາວໄທດຳມັກເຮັດເຫລົ້າໄຫແຊບໆ ໄວ້ດູດດື່ມ ຊຸມແຊວກັນໃນຍາມບຸນ ສ່ວນສຳຄັນໃນການເຮັດເຫລົ້າໄຫກໍແມ່ນ ເຂົ້າແກບຫລືຂີ້ແກບນີ້ເອງ.
ອັນທ້າວ ຫຳແຫລ້ ເຮັດປາແດກຕາມທີ່ຂີ້ໂມ້ມານັ້ນ ກໍ ok ບໍ່ມີໃຜວ່າຫຍັງ ຈະເຮັດຫຍັງກິນແນວໃດ ກໍບໍ່ຜິດຫຍັງ ຈະໃສ່ປູແປ້ງປູອ່ອນ ກໍຄົງບໍ່ເບື່ອຕາຍ ແຕ່ຈະເອີ້ນວ່າປາແດກໄດ້ແນວໃດ ຄັນບໍ່ໄມ້ຫລືສາກ "ແດກ" ມັນລົງໄປ. ລຽນມັນລົງໄປເປັນຊັ້ນໆດັ່ງນັ້ນ ຄວນຈະເອີ້ນມັນວ່າ "ປາຊັ້ນ" ຫລື "ປາປູເປັນຊັ້ນໆ".
ຈະເປັນປາແດກແບບລາວໆ ຕ້ອງມີແນວ "ແດກ" ຫລື ຖັ່ງ ຍັດມັນລົງໄປໃຫ້ແຈບໆ ກ່ອນຈະເອົາໄປໝັກໄວ້ເປັນປີ ໃຫ້ມັນເປັນປາແດກແຊບໆໆໆໆ ແບບລາວໆໆໆໆໆໆ
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Post by Skunk ตัวเหม็น ตัวหอม คิดถึงจัง ແຫ່ຍມົດແດງ
Post by s***@gmail.com
HT,
Thanks for participating in this post. Happy Labor day to you!
You can team up with Pizone to whom can/want to make Padek dish and send it back to Laos. Nothing much with WTO, I am sure if anyone of us want to make Padak anything can happen. Afterall, USA is a land of the opportunity. I still hold that believe.
As you and I know, Padak is a type of flavor/a sauce add to make tasty food. Ironically, some Laotian even add MSG to it even though, I personally have tried the dish and believe that it's already tasty, in fact, too tasty. Hehhe!!
And so as it seems, we all got our own recipe to make Padak. I hope Pizone will share his though. B/c it's obviously that his using rice hull/husk/bran is quit popular that could not be without. I even am come to admit that it is very popular main ingredient to add rice husk.
Lao dish is very diversified. Even making Lao Padak dish that everyone knows/familiar, we still not agree. But at least, we must agree that rice husk is a main popular dish in padak ingredient, ແກບນັ້ນກໍ່ແມ່ນຮຳ ເພາະຮຳນັ້ນຈະຕ້ອງມີແກບ ຖ້າບໍ່ມີແກບ ຈະບໍ່ແມ່ນຮຳ. ອັນນີ້ລາວເຮົາຄົງຮູ້ກັນແລ້ວຕິເນາະ...
Post by HT
Padek do use rice husk or rice bran in the fermenting process, if you don't use it I guarantee you will have sompa in a few weeks or the fish will end in the bin. The secret is the ratio of fish/salt/husk, good Padek is not salty but rich and flavorsome.
What all the Padek to do with WTO? for those who wish to bypass the US health regulation, you can use local rice husk, local fish. So please go ahead and try making it and then see if you can export it back to Laos and Asia.
PICKLE FISH IS MY FAVORITE NOW. ALL I NEED IS VINEGAR, SUGAR, and SALT ratio it to your taste the result looks cleaner and also LAST/PRESERVE THE FISH for YEARS SO my fishing season in the summer should LAST that whole year to the NEXT SUMMER up here in the FREEZING COLD -4
SULILEC
2014-09-07 13:05:52 UTC
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Good morning Pizone,
Just Sulilec's name is enough. No addition of adjective please... Seriously,
what is Pizone ປີຊອນ means anyway. My typing as ປີຊ້ວນ has a better meaning than yours. Your screen name sounds really plain. Get yourself another name, would you.

My short one sentence in Laotian language if one who knows rice husk that add as a flavor and also a deterrence, than one would know that the important of rice husk. And that,
if one could not find such a fine rice husk than, one would have to use alternative...name it Pizone, it could be cooked rice ເຂົ້າຂົ້ວ ເປື້ອກໝາກນັດແຫ້ງ for instances. You think Laos WTO is going to send you rice husk? Or it's better to get kitchen aid such as ເຂົ້າຂົ້ວ ເປື້ອກໝາກນັດ (or dry ແຫ້ງ ) as a flavor.
some Padek I did not see one add anything other than salt and stack ເປື້ອກໝາກນັດ on top and it's still taste and look, smell, pretty much like traditional Padek.

What you have written of ຮຳ is just a colorful saying. I bet you did not get know how to make Padek in your life. Judging from your writing, you sure know
ເຂົາລີບ. ເຂົ້າລີບແຫ້ງນັ້ນບໍ່ແມ່ນແກບເນີ...ແກບ ກະ ແກບ, ຮຳ ກະ ຮຳ. ເປື້ອກເຂົ້ານັ້ນແມ່ນແກບ. ແລະຮຳນັ້ນຈະຕ້ອງມີແກບປົນເປືອຢູ່. ຮຳອອ່ນ as you had explained it, get feed it to pigs. Lao has their own way of making use of rice product. You have live in USA too long, what do you know about being poor and make use of the best of product of rice anyway, Pizone. Besides, I bet you left Laos when it was still rich and prosper.

Sulilec
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there're two kinds on Hum, Hum-Orn and Hum-Kair.
ຮຳມີ 2 ຢ່າງຄື ຮຳອ່ອນ ແລະຮຳແກ່
ຮຳທີ່ເອົາເຮັດປາແດກນັ້ນ ສ່ວນຫລາຍເພິ່ນເອົາຮຳແກ່ເຮັດ
ຮຳ ກັບ ແກບ ບໍ່ຄືກັນ ບໍ່ແມ່ນອັນດຽວກັນຄືນາງ ລ່ວງສຸລີເລັກເວົ້າ
ຮຳ ແມ່ນ ເປືອກເຂົ້າທີ່ຖືກສີຈົນມຸ່ນ ປົນກັບ ຫົວເຂົ້າແລະເຂົ້າຫັກເຂົ້າມຸ່ນ ໄດ້ຈາກການສີເຂົ້າ
ແກບ ແມ່ນ ເຂົ້າເປືອກລີບ ທີ່ບໍ່ມີເມັດເຂົ້າຢູ່ທາງໃນ ໄດ້ຈາກການຝັດເຂົ້າ ວີເຂົ້າ ຫລືວິທີການອື່ນໆ ທີ່ແຍກເຂົ້າລີບ ອອກຈາກເຂົ້າເຕັມເມັດ ກ່ອນຈະເອົາເຂົ້າໄປສີ ທີ່ໂຮງສີເຂົ້າ. ຊາວໄທດຳມັກເຮັດເຫລົ້າໄຫແຊບໆ ໄວ້ດູດດື່ມ ຊຸມແຊວກັນໃນຍາມບຸນ ສ່ວນສຳຄັນໃນການເຮັດເຫລົ້າໄຫກໍແມ່ນ ເຂົ້າແກບຫລືຂີ້ແກບນີ້ເອງ.
ອັນທ້າວ ຫຳແຫລ້ ເຮັດປາແດກຕາມທີ່ຂີ້ໂມ້ມານັ້ນ ກໍ ok ບໍ່ມີໃຜວ່າຫຍັງ ຈະເຮັດຫຍັງກິນແນວໃດ ກໍບໍ່ຜິດຫຍັງ ຈະໃສ່ປູແປ້ງປູອ່ອນ ກໍຄົງບໍ່ເບື່ອຕາຍ ແຕ່ຈະເອີ້ນວ່າປາແດກໄດ້ແນວໃດ ຄັນບໍ່ໄມ້ຫລືສາກ "ແດກ" ມັນລົງໄປ. ລຽນມັນລົງໄປເປັນຊັ້ນໆດັ່ງນັ້ນ ຄວນຈະເອີ້ນມັນວ່າ "ປາຊັ້ນ" ຫລື "ປາປູເປັນຊັ້ນໆ".
ຈະເປັນປາແດກແບບລາວໆ ຕ້ອງມີແນວ "ແດກ" ຫລື ຖັ່ງ ຍັດມັນລົງໄປໃຫ້ແຈບໆ ກ່ອນຈະເອົາໄປໝັກໄວ້ເປັນປີ ໃຫ້ມັນເປັນປາແດກແຊບໆໆໆໆ ແບບລາວໆໆໆໆໆໆ
ປີຊອ
pizone
2014-09-08 17:15:01 UTC
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Good morning Pizone,
Just Sulilec's name is enough. No addition of adjective please... Seriously,
what is Pizone ປີຊອນ means anyway. My typing as ປີຊ້ວນ has a better meaning than yours. Your screen name sounds really plain. Get yourself another name, would you.
ນາງລ່ວງ ສຸລີເລັກ is already the nicest adjectif i can find for you. you keep playing with my name and change it as you feel like. if this is not 'ລ່ວງ', what else do you want it to be? do you know the meaning of 'proper' or 'proper name'? do you know the meaning of 'Obama'?

you don't know how Lao Padeak is made and stubbornly don't listen to anyone trying to tell you. what else about Laoness you know? keep blablabla... it's fun and not bad at all to have a 'Luang' person like you in here hahahahhhhh

yeah i'm old, i live in foreign countries for too long, but i also spended most of my younger life time living in Lao land and i know a lot about my Laoness root. How about you? how old were you when you left Laos? did you know how to wear the 'Sinh' by yourseft yet? or still being nake when you leave Lao land?

pizone
SULILEC
2014-09-13 21:17:49 UTC
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You sound kind of naïve to admit to be an old person! Seriously! [Grins] That is correct Pizone. I do have doubt in your name. In fact, I even get to ask one former teacher to confirm the meaning. The teacher told me that
to be named as banana flower, one must add ໄມ້ໂທ...ປີຊ້ອນ ຈະຕ້ອງມີໄມ້ໂທ. Are you really that old folk as you claim? What kind of Lao accent that pronoun ປີຊ້ອນ as ປີຊອນ anyway?


As your idea of Laoness, maybe you need to read what I am trying to say to you again. Being Lao or Laoness one must know something about being Lao that is so very proud of. You have not proof a thing that you had made Lao Padeak even though you got the same bright idea with HT. You know, it is not like stuff fish into a container add all ingredients and you think it's going to simulate biologically on it's own.
And I am talking about the one that sale. It must make with technique and methods to do so and no magus please. And I did admit that ຄົນລາວມາຈາກສູນສຳມະນາຮູ້ຈັກເຮັດປາແດກໄດ້ເກັ່ງຫຼາຍ. Go ahead Pizone, you are old but have never gone to ສຳມະນາ if you are going to make Padak this winter, do let know and that proof your ability. Don't be a mouse...and just bambling of saling it $1000.00 a jar. B/c I know for sure that it is possible...if know how.
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Post by SULILEC
Good morning Pizone,
Just Sulilec's name is enough. No addition of adjective please... Seriously,
what is Pizone ປີຊອນ means anyway. My typing as ປີຊ້ວນ has a better meaning than yours. Your screen name sounds really plain. Get yourself another name, would you.
ນາງລ່ວງ ສຸລີເລັກ is already the nicest adjectif i can find for you. you keep playing with my name and change it as you feel like. if this is not 'ລ່ວງ', what else do you want it to be? do you know the meaning of 'proper' or 'proper name'? do you know the meaning of 'Obama'?
you don't know how Lao Padeak is made and stubbornly don't listen to anyone trying to tell you. what else about Laoness you know? keep blablabla... it's fun and not bad at all to have a 'Luang' person like you in here hahahahhhhh
yeah i'm old, i live in foreign countries for too long, but i also spended most of my younger life time living in Lao land and i know a lot about my Laoness root. How about you? how old were you when you left Laos? did you know how to wear the 'Sinh' by yourseft yet? or still being nake when you leave Lao land?
pizone
pizone
2014-09-15 17:12:18 UTC
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Post by SULILEC
You sound kind of naïve to admit to be an old person! Seriously! [Grins] That is correct Pizone. I do have doubt in your name. In fact, I even get to ask one former teacher to confirm the meaning. The teacher told me that
to be named as banana flower, one must add ໄມ້ໂທ...ປີຊ້ອນ ຈະຕ້ອງມີໄມ້ໂທ. Are you really that old folk as you claim? What kind of Lao accent that pronoun ປີຊ້ອນ as ປີຊອນ anyway?
i used to explain the meaning of my name here, to you, and you stubbornly keep playing with my name. in fact, you don't need to ask your teacher to put any accent to my name, or to change it. ປີຊອນ is ປີຊອນ. it is what it is, whether you or your ລ່ວງ-teacher like it or not.

proper name is "proper", your teacher should know this if he/she is NOT ລ່ວງ as you're.

btw, what ປາແດກ has anything to do with ຄົນລາວມາຈາກສູນສຳມະນາ? do you know what ສູນສຳມະນາ is?

since you already proved yourself that you don't know what you're talking about, let me give you some light at your dark tunnel.

ສູນສຳມະນາ is the commu brain-washed places. ສັມມະນາກອນ, ລຸງຜລິດ, ນັກໂທດການເມືອງ,​ລູກແຫລ້ງຕີນມືຈັກພັດ, or whatever names they were given, they don't have enough food to eat on the daily basis, they don't have house to live, they don't have medecine, they don't have anything like they used to have before the commu took over the country. they have to do hard-works and do everything as ordered by the commu. they have to eat 'anything' just to survive. some might have a bit of spare time, after long hard working day go fishing, catch some small fishes, and have a change to taste fresh fish in the hidding place, but surely they don't have enough left-over fished to make Padeak, and the become Padeak-making expert like you stupidly tried to say in here....

yes, the ones who survived either by escaping or being released, have lots of real live experiences. they can make/create anything to become anything, they can eat almost any 'green things'/leaves as vegetable, any kind of things that move (animals) as food,.... but that doesn't mean ສູນສຳມະນາ turned them to become expert in the making of Lao Padeak...

you can put anything in your Pedeak, but don't forget to put "Hum Khao Num", that's the lao way of making Padeak.

pizone
Post by SULILEC
As your idea of Laoness, maybe you need to read what I am trying to say to you again. Being Lao or Laoness one must know something about being Lao that is so very proud of. You have not proof a thing that you had made Lao Padeak even though you got the same bright idea with HT. You know, it is not like stuff fish into a container add all ingredients and you think it's going to simulate biologically on it's own.
And I am talking about the one that sale. It must make with technique and methods to do so and no magus please. And I did admit that ຄົນລາວມາຈາກສູນສຳມະນາຮູ້ຈັກເຮັດປາແດກໄດ້ເກັ່ງຫຼາຍ. Go ahead Pizone, you are old but have never gone to ສຳມະນາ if you are going to make Padak this winter, do let know and that proof your ability. Don't be a mouse...and just bambling of saling it $1000.00 a jar. B/c I know for sure that it is possible...if know how.
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Post by SULILEC
Good morning Pizone,
Just Sulilec's name is enough. No addition of adjective please... Seriously,
what is Pizone ປີຊອນ means anyway. My typing as ປີຊ້ວນ has a better meaning than yours. Your screen name sounds really plain. Get yourself another name, would you.
ນາງລ່ວງ ສຸລີເລັກ is already the nicest adjectif i can find for you. you keep playing with my name and change it as you feel like. if this is not 'ລ່ວງ', what else do you want it to be? do you know the meaning of 'proper' or 'proper name'? do you know the meaning of 'Obama'?
you don't know how Lao Padeak is made and stubbornly don't listen to anyone trying to tell you. what else about Laoness you know? keep blablabla... it's fun and not bad at all to have a 'Luang' person like you in here hahahahhhhh
yeah i'm old, i live in foreign countries for too long, but i also spended most of my younger life time living in Lao land and i know a lot about my Laoness root. How about you? how old were you when you left Laos? did you know how to wear the 'Sinh' by yourseft yet? or still being nake when you leave Lao land?
pizone
SULILEC
2014-09-20 04:31:57 UTC
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Look Banana-Flower-want-to-be,
Your screen name is ambiguous. You must have pretty heavy Lao accent that when you first created your screen name, it did not sound like a a typical Laotian. It would be OK if you admit of having heavy Lao accent. No one would name a person after Sulilec or Pizone. The educate Lao would know that, that no one would name a child/person other than a screen name. No such thing as ປີຊອນ in Lao meaning to be known as banana flower. But there are terms such as ນາຊອນ, ຊອນບາວຊອນສາວ (teens).

Laokhamhom is the most educated Laotian and partial person who knows Laotian language really well. I will accept his words if you think your name is correct understanding as banana flower. But than again, let Laokhamhom prvides his educated finding. If you still wanted to be banana flowers, fine by me.

As for Lao Padek, according to you if there is no hum ຮຳ, ມັນຈະບໍ່ເປັນ ບໍ່ແມ່ນ ປາແດກ that won't be Laotian way of making it. Therefore, that one can not be Laotian. I find your statement not true. That is the reason, I told you and I now am confident, you are the idiot who does not know how to even make padek, but just babbling about making it. Go ahead make a fool out of yourself, or that laugh at your own finding. Who care about your making Padek must have hum. But those who had make plenty of Padek had eatten it, no hum in padek and they/he/she/it sure still is Laotian.

You are also making a fool out of yourself if you think ສຳມະນາ folks does not make padek. You are truely making a fool out of yourself! And I won't be that low with you because you were not there at ສູນສຳມະນາ. The idiot simply talks, but no walks. At this point, I think you should "Shut up"! And stop talking to me if you don't know what you are talking about!! [Grins]

Sulilec
pizone
2014-09-22 17:59:30 UTC
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hahahahhhh.. sucilec, you're funny and funnier. you aren't just ລ່ວງ, now you're also psychic too? how do you know i have pretty heavy accent? you don't know me like you know her lao, then how you can hear my accent? you can hear my writing???

i told you Hum is a main ingredient to make padeak. if you want me to teach you how to make padeak, then ask me nicely. don't just talk like a stupid ລ່ວງ person and expect me to tell you. you won't get anything goodie if you don't know how to ask nicely.

many lao people don't know how to make padeak doesn't mean they aren't lao, and i didn't say that. it's just like most french people don't know how to make Camembert, but they still are french.

as i told you, ສັມມະນາ folks are former commu prisoners. they have nothing to do with the know-how to make padeak. some might know it long before they were taken away by the communists, but many don't. most of them even don't know where their food on the table come from, how they're prepared or cooked. if you want to know why, ask me nicely, would you. don't just ລ່ວງ and ລ່ວງ ຮາຮາຮາຮາຮາຮຮຮຮຮ

ປີຊອນ
Post by SULILEC
Look Banana-Flower-want-to-be,
Your screen name is ambiguous. You must have pretty heavy Lao accent that when you first created your screen name, it did not sound like a a typical Laotian. It would be OK if you admit of having heavy Lao accent. No one would name a person after Sulilec or Pizone. The educate Lao would know that, that no one would name a child/person other than a screen name. No such thing as ປີຊອນ in Lao meaning to be known as banana flower. But there are terms such as ນາຊອນ, ຊອນບາວຊອນສາວ (teens).
Laokhamhom is the most educated Laotian and partial person who knows Laotian language really well. I will accept his words if you think your name is correct understanding as banana flower. But than again, let Laokhamhom prvides his educated finding. If you still wanted to be banana flowers, fine by me.
As for Lao Padek, according to you if there is no hum ຮຳ, ມັນຈະບໍ່ເປັນ ບໍ່ແມ່ນ ປາແດກ that won't be Laotian way of making it. Therefore, that one can not be Laotian. I find your statement not true. That is the reason, I told you and I now am confident, you are the idiot who does not know how to even make padek, but just babbling about making it. Go ahead make a fool out of yourself, or that laugh at your own finding. Who care about your making Padek must have hum. But those who had make plenty of Padek had eatten it, no hum in padek and they/he/she/it sure still is Laotian.
You are also making a fool out of yourself if you think ສຳມະນາ folks does not make padek. You are truely making a fool out of yourself! And I won't be that low with you because you were not there at ສູນສຳມະນາ. The idiot simply talks, but no walks. At this point, I think you should "Shut up"! And stop talking to me if you don't know what you are talking about!! [Grins]
Sulilec
Her Lao
2014-09-22 19:43:48 UTC
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hahahahhhh.. sucilec, you're funny and funnier. you aren't just ລ່ວງ, now you're also psychic too? how do you know i have pretty heavy accent? you don't know me like you know her lao, then how you can hear my accent? you can hear my
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Leck was born and raised in Vientiane; hers was one of the old "ruling families" of Vientiane, before her dad was hauled away, for ສັມມະນາ psychological "re-training," for siding with the "wrong side" during the civil war.


So, of course, if YOU were from the north (like Casalao), east (like Sao Sou Maly, who's from west-Dien Bien Phu), or south (like lao phuan), then, yes, to sophisticated ruling families like Leck and her folks, YOU DO have a "heavy accent."

I had never been to Vientiane proper --- the closest to sophisticated Vientiane I had ever been to was Vang Vieng, taken there when I was about 4 or 5, when got to the high mountain range between Kasi and Vang Vieng, and I was very sick, needing some blood transfusion...

Point is, I don't know the Vientiane accent, but I am sure it's different from Lao folks from the north. For example, Casalao and Sao Sou Maly said when they first arrived in Vientiane as shoeless northern Lao with country accent, to attend Dong Dok or some other fancy college, that they HAD to pick up the local acdent quick, to blend in among sophisticated Vientianites, lest they were made fun of....

Again, I don't know sophisticated Vientiane's accent, but from Luang Prabang and up, where I was originally from, people spoke with many accents:

Pai Sai,
Pai Kader
Pai Ser
Pai Nai

I am just curious, Leck.... how do you guys say that phrase in your sophisticated Vientiane "accent"?
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Her Lao, You could watch Lao Stars Channel to hear Vientiane accents!
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hahahahhhh.. sucilec, you're funny and funnier. you aren't just ລ່ວງ, now you're also psychic too? how do you know i have pretty heavy accent? you don't know me like you know her lao, then how you can hear my accent? you can hear my
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Leck was born and raised in Vientiane; hers was one of the old "ruling families" of Vientiane, before her dad was hauled away, for ສັມມະນາ psychological "re-training," for siding with the "wrong side" during the civil war.
So, of course, if YOU were from the north (like Casalao), east (like Sao Sou Maly, who's from west-Dien Bien Phu), or south (like lao phuan), then, yes, to sophisticated ruling families like Leck and her folks, YOU DO have a "heavy accent."
I had never been to Vientiane proper --- the closest to sophisticated Vientiane I had ever been to was Vang Vieng, taken there when I was about 4 or 5, when got to the high mountain range between Kasi and Vang Vieng, and I was very sick, needing some blood transfusion...
Point is, I don't know the Vientiane accent, but I am sure it's different from Lao folks from the north. For example, Casalao and Sao Sou Maly said when they first arrived in Vientiane as shoeless northern Lao with country accent, to attend Dong Dok or some other fancy college, that they HAD to pick up the local acdent quick, to blend in among sophisticated Vientianites, lest they were made fun of....
Pai Sai,
Pai Kader
Pai Ser
Pai Nai
I am just curious, Leck.... how do you guys say that phrase in your sophisticated Vientiane "accent"?
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Just curious of your posting that now you had posted the whole article. Where did the saying that WTO will opening up Laos product to USA so that a person like myself can use. ຖ້າບໍ່ມີຫຍັງຂ້າຍດິບດີນັ້ນປາແດກຢູ່ລາວແຊບກົ່ວປາແດກຢູ່ອະເມຣິກາບໍ່?
ປາແດກຢູ່ກະເມຣິກາແຊບຢູ່ເນີ ຫຶຫຶຫຶ ເຖິ່ງປາບໍ່ແມ່ນປາລາວກໍ່ຕາມເນີ...
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This article was originally published by the East Asia Forum on 9 August 2014.
Earlier this year Laos celebrated the first anniversary of its WTO membership. Laos' accession to the WTO has been less talked about than that of its neighbours China and Vietnam, who joined the organisation in 2001 and 2007, respectively. This is partly due to Laos being a small, landlocked economy whose accession would not be expected to make a big impact on international trade.
But Laos' clout is more than may first appear.
Until recently Laos had been the only member of ASEAN that remained outside the WTO. Laos' membership in the WTO has strengthened ASEAN's position in the multilateral trading system. ASEAN now has a louder voice at the WTO negotiating table. And, given it is a sizeable market of over 600 million people, ASEAN cannot be overlooked. ASEAN is also one of the world's most dynamic trading blocks and is aiming to establish an economic community by 2015.
The admission of Laos also demonstrates that the WTO is an inclusive organisation for least developed countries (LDCs). There have been heated debates over whether WTO accession has become tougher and takes a longer time to complete. The accession of Laos is no exception to this trend -- negotiations took 15 years to complete. When Laos entered the WTO, then director-general of the WTO Pascal Lamy remarked, 'Laos has come a long way since it embarked on the road to membership in 1997'. He added that the process has never been easy for LDCs.
Laos' initial accession steps were slow, but the country has recently reformed its economy and domestic institutions to align with international trade rules.
Laos has agreed to similar terms of WTO membership to other LDC applicants. Laos has bound its tariffs at 18.8 per cent on average for all products (19.3 per cent in agriculture and 18.7 per cent in non-agricultural sectors). In terms of services, Laos has committed to liberalise 10 sectors (or 79 sub-sectors): business services; courier and telecoms; construction; distribution; private education; environmental services; insurance; banking; private healthcare; tourism; and air transport services. These commitments will be implemented fully over a maximum period of seven years after the date of accession.
Laos has also agreed to adhere to WTO principles, including those related to trading rights; import licensing; customs valuation; investment; sanitary and phytosanitary measures; technical barriers to trade; trade in services; and trade-related intellectual property rights.
The government is working on disseminating its accession package to different stakeholders. On the one hand, this aims to ensure government agencies at various levels understand the contractual obligations that Laos now has with the international community. On the other, it aims to educate the business community and the public at large of the opportunities that arise from joining the WTO.
Laos has used its WTO accession to implement its decision to establish a market economy. The accession process allows countries to align their trade policy with the principles of non-discrimination and transparency. Over the course of 15 years of accession negotiations, Laos enacted some 90 laws and regulations to bring them in line with WTO rules. This is expected to help create an enabling environment for the private sector. Such reform momentum should be maintained post-accession if Laos is to be competitive in the region.
WTO membership provides export opportunities for Laos, but such opportunities need to be realised. Despite its relatively robust growth of around 7.5 per cent per year over the last decade, Laos has to broaden its export base. To date, its exports are dominated by a limited number of products, mainly resource-based products (mining and electricity), primary commodities (agriculture and wood) and products with low value add (garments). Opening up the internal market to
foreign competition will help to stimulate reform in both the import-competing and export-oriented sectors.
Laos has bound its tariffs for all agricultural and industrial products, while a grace period has been granted for tariffs on items that are significant parts of Laos' domestic production or tariffs that contribute significantly to government revenue. In the medium to long term, alternative measures that are legal under the WTO, such as trade remedies, need to be put in place to address the possible impacts of an import surge.
Adapting to the WTO rules is a long-term challenge. Both the public and private sectors need to be prepared. Joining the WTO is not an end in itself. It is a tool to assist countries in adjusting their internal system to the norms of the world trade community. The true benefits of WTO accession can only be gained if Laos takes the results of the accession negotiations seriously and implements its obligations proactively -- but its first year has been a good start.
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Buavanh Vilavong is a PhD scholar at the Crawford School of Public Policy, ANU. He was previously part of Laos' negotiation team on WTO accession and retains his position as Deputy Director General in the Ministry of Industry and Commerce.
agreed on ¨ປາແດກ¨ herein USA the taste of ປາແດກ is NOT as good as those I ATE IN Laos ESPECIALLY THOSE NEAR NAKANG. I complaint all the time when i had ປາແດກ for a MEAL herein USA. my wife said OLDER one is always better including my GIRLFRIENDS. SHE SAIS THOSE I FOUND LATER IN LIFE ARE those that feel like a guy when i sleep with at night while those first few one i met she seemed like a true girl. soft an gentle. now that I come to think about it a little more I think the taste of ປາແດກ in this country is off the taste because the maker use the cheap type of fish. the fish the used here are those small silver fish the size in the range of 1-3 inches ONLY while those ປາແດກ i ate in LAOS ate are made of BIGGER fish the size range of 3-5 inches of CATFISH. if you look at the meat texture carefully you will see the BIG different. the taste itself is worth ZERO for the new ones pf which I already QUIT buying them anymore. if the fish is the same THAN it is definitely the skill of the new generation that is getting worst now a day.
next time i go fishing I will try to make my own JAR OF PADEK the way i see how it should Padek or better yet just make PICKLE FISH that way the salt and vinegar are likely to clean any unneeded bio-agents within that JAR due to the high level of acidic in the brine. making my own at home I do NOT have to follow any manufacturer procedure because I am NOT selling my PICKLE FISH to any other people. the hack i know my kids do NOT eat them neither so those pickle fishes will be for me and my wife ONLY. My kids would rather have pizza,burgers + fries.
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ເບິ່ງແລ້ວເປັນຕາຢາກຫົວດີຄືກັນເລີຍເອົາມາໃຫ້ເບິ່ງວ່າຄິດກັນແນວໃດ....ຫຶຫຶຫຶ
ຜູ່ກ່ຽວບໍ່ຮູ້ວ່າຍິ້ມຫຼຶຫົວໃນທ່າຖ່າຍຮູບ...ເພາະຫົວຂໍ້ນັ້ນ ປະກົດວ່າຍັງບໍ່ໄດ້ຕອບເທື່ອ...ວ່າຈະເຮັດແນວໃດຕໍ່ໄປ...
ອັນນີ້ເຄີຍເຫັນລີງໄດ້ໝາກພ້າວໃຫ່ຍ ເປັນຕາຢາກຫົວແທ້ໆ...ຫວັງວ່າ ສປປລ ຄົງດີກົ່ວລີງໄດ້ໝາກພ້າວຢູ່ຕິບໍ?...
ຫວັງວ່າແນວນັ້ນ...
sulilec
http://www.vientianetimes.com/Headlines.html
Deputy U.S. Trade Representative and U.S. Permanent Representative to the World Trade Organization and Dr. Nam Viyaketh, Minister of Industry and Commerce of the Lao People’s Democratic Republic, signed a WTO bilateral market access agreement as part of Lao PDR’s negotiations to join the World Trade Organization (WTO) in 2012.
how about trying to compete with THAILAND on 3 season RICE a YEAR sell out tons and tons of RICE just make the best use of the DAMS by channeling water to the paddy farms so that a three time a year RICE harvesting can be possible. IF RICE is NOT a good enough top compete with THAILAND than raise PIGSor DOGS TO SHIP UP NORTH for the Chinese. SELLING a few thousands a day and LPDR LEADERS will be RICH beyond BILL GATE because software can be hack to use 4free BUT the Chinese can NOT hack to get FREE Pig/Dog.that 1.4 billion CHINESE need food and they like PIG/DOG the most. just need to feed them and make billion$ in return. those 1.4 billion CHINESE got no more land space to raise PIG/DOG to sustain their hungry for PORK/dog meat so they will have to import from neighboring countries and WHO
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